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I'd be having break-up feelings right about now...
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So i'm home free now right? |
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If the little-kid non-believers weren't so insecure there would be very little discussion of religion on this forum. (no intended reference to this thread, this is a legitimate inquiry.) As Cgarr said, hell is the absence of god's presence, or being isolated from him. Take my word for it, God's presence in the afterlife in not something you want to be without. BTDT. We are not supposed to understand exactly what the kingdom of God is all about but we are supposed to know how to end up there. It isn't that hard. |
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You are not allowed to respond to this thread since you do not have a masters of divinity. |
Hell? No one sleeps. Everyone plays an accordian. Non-stop.
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Non-believers do not appear insecure or threatened by religion. There is however, a lot of fun in seeing believers try to explain and justify their beliefs. To date neither proof of the existence of God nor of an afterlife has been forthcoming, if you have something to add to the "evidence" the existense of God thread is still open. If you don't know what the kingdom of god is about how do you know you want to end up there or that you have the guidelines to get there? |
Milt,
there is an interesting book out there, "Twenty three minutes in Hell" by Bill Wiese. I am a Christian and assured that I am going to Heaven, but picked this book up in a bookstore while browsing one day, it is an account by someone who was clinically dead for some 23 minutes and he believes he was sent to hell as a warning. He was revived, he believes for the purpose of coming back and warning others. You might take a look, pretty fascinating, not to mention, it will make you question what you really believe. I wish you well, would hate to see anyone go there. |
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Milt,
Actually the Bible does apparently teach that we will have bodies, both in Heaven and Hell. In Luke 16 is the story of Lazarus who was in heaven and the rich man who was in Hades and "lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried out and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus s that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame." Also Revelation 20 has this account, which was a vision given to John by God, "And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne". This to me would indicate that we have bodies. Same chapter v. 13, "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds...........And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire" Furthermore, Jesus talks of a great banquet or feast that He will throw for all believers. This indicates eating and drinking, hence, physical bodies. Therefore most likely, those in hell will also have physical bodies. |
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Or- we could regard this as superstitious bronze age nonsense, the belief of which suggests mental incompentence at such a level as to make one wonder how such a person might be able to put there own trousers on each morning. |
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Ecclesiastes 9:5- "For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all..."
No thought or feeling after you die. No everlasting punishment or pain. KT |
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Trekkor- seems these statements in bible verses are in conflict. Why is one correct and the other not? |
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So what was the afterlife like?!?! |
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I read all of the posts very carefully. Unfortunately, almost always, my questions end up not being answered, or answered in such a way or with answers that make me somewhat more of a non-believer. |
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What news from the afterlife? Whats god like? |
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You said "BTDT" Sammy.
So tell us, is Elvis still the King? |
Hell is the impossibility of reason.
Sounds pretty much like owning a British vehicle, as was mentioned earlier... |
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