Is Rev. Wright ever going to shut up?
 

This is from this moring at the Nat. Press Club Breakfest

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/28/rev-wright-takes-his-message-directly-to-the-media/

"The Rev. Jeremiah Wright taunted a gathering of journalists Monday in Washington, D.C., calling their coverage of his speeches an attack on the black church, while defending his claim that the U.S. was responsible for the terrorist attacks of 9/11.

Wright, the controversial former pastor of Barack Obama’s church, took dead aim at the U.S. government Monday — saying American soldiers in Iraq have died “over a lie” and calling the war “unjust” — as he called for reconciliation and understanding between blacks and whites."

He also spoke at the NAACP fund raiser over the weekend. The guy is now a media star and will not go away. He is a sideshow to the race and B.O. is the guy that set him up. I think this only comes off as negative. He can explain all day long and he is only digging a deeper hole for himself and B.O.

Rock on rev. Did you notice that now he is Obama's "former" pastor. Where's he going now. Farrakhan's joint?

Unfortunately, he is saying what some people want to hear. Even if it is BS.

No, he is a millstone around Mr Obama's neck

Look at the millions he's made doing exactly what he's doing now. Why would he stop now that he's really got the national spot light? He's building a 10k sq foot house and the new attention is just adding to his pile of cash.

active duty Marine.

I'm sorry if free speech, or his speech, makes you uncomfortable.

Ironic: he fought for you to have it and you want him to shut up.

Maybe you should read my post again. I never said he should shut up, but I bet Obama would like him to settle down just a little.

Thanks for your service, and well said. end of story

Whoa! sorry, I'm not in the Service.

Reverend Wright was an active duty Marine when Dick Cheney was on his 5th or 6th deferment.

Yep. He's decided to kill Obama's chances at becoming President. I guess he hates blacks, too. ;)

There is an implicit statement in your title. Please accept my apologies if I read too much into it.

Wright's continued apparent personal desire for the spotlight is possibly hurting Obama - I think that is what the OP is referring to with "shut-up".

I would agree.

This is disappointing. Personal desire? What a perversion of one man's desire to share a message, an important message. A message no one wants to hear. his job, as a preacher, is to share a message. that's his job description.

whoa, what's that....hey look, there's a sale at Wal-Mart...leftover dancing Santa's from last Christmas, low lead content guaranteed. ooohhhhh.:(

My point is that Wright seems to be putting his own agenda ahead of Obama's. He has every right to do so, but Wright should be more aware and sensitive that he (Wright) is a polarizing person who is most likely alienating a large number of folks who might have otherwise voted for Obama.

Just MHO.

True that.

Picture of Jeremiah Wright (far right) attending to President Lyndon Johnson, during a 1966 visit to the Naval Hospital in Bethesda, MD.

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Tim

I wish Wright would shut up.

He came across great on Bill Moyers show.

His whole "God D--- America" speech when taken in whole and in context was interesting, not offensive at all. You should all watch it sometime.

He is "Sound Bite Death" for Obama................................please STFU Mr. Wright.

What if. . . Obama wanted Wright to set the record straight?

I mean, yeah, I agree that Wright is likely just looking for some face time, but I have to think about other motivators. --I doubt Wright would do interveiws w/o getting an okay from Obama . . .but then again, Obama may not be politically savvy enough to sway Wright to STFU.

So, does Obama think that Wright is strong enough to set the record straight? ...or is Obama so ineffectual in swaying even his close friends, that Wright is going to say "FU Barry" ?

I am a veteran and defend free speech, but what I have heard come from him so far as a "man of God" does none of us any good. He is a man out for a buck and nothing more.

HM3 is not USMC its USN if you know what I mean.

Sorry Shaun I thought you had posted you were on active duty.

Here is my take: I have no issue with Wright speaking anything he likes. I am a fiscal conservative and a social moderate. It’s a free country, at least the last time I checked it was, so he can say anything he likes to further his own agenda. My comment would be that it appears as if his agenda does not include helping his parishioner get elected to the highest office in the land. Also, some may surmise that his agenda, may be, but is not limited to making significant amounts of money for himself. I find that in direct contradiction to what I understand he preaches. Now that’s just my opinion. I also support freedom of speech and freedom to peruse your own economic freedom in any way you like so long as its legal. I don’t believe he’s violated any laws, and he’s obviously very successful, based on the home he’s known to be building.

The mainsteam press seems to be very careful and good at exposing only that which serves to embroil conflict.

Take the time to hear things in context and in whole. Once you do that, the story is over and they (the press) will need something new to tantalize our interest with.

I saw on the news today Rev. Wright behind the pulpit saying when "Obama gets elected that he will be the first president to legally have a black woman in bed at 1600 Penn. Ave. " what need is there for something like that to come from the pulpit at a church service?

"This is disappointing. Personal desire? What a perversion of one man's desire to share a message, an important message. A message no one wants to hear. his job, as a preacher, is to share a message. that's his job description."

Perhaps you joined his church or made a donation? What's so important about his message? Why do you tend to describe his motives as altruistic?

I think everybody in America has heard his message by now and all he wants to do is draw attention to himself. And I think most Amercians don't think his message important, helpful or truthful. In fact, most think it's bombastic, racist, hateful, ignorant garbage and don't want to hear it again.

But certainly he has the right to say and do whatever he wants. I'll bet Hillary is loving it and Obama is cringing.

+1 Ironic that Obama has provided Wright with the national stage from which to spew his racist rants, and in the process is hurting his own chances to become president.

He has no business doing it from behind the pulpit, what does a sermon like that have to do with spreading the word of God and teaching us what is in the bible. He is making a political statement and nothing more.

active duty Marine.


pathetic argument, lee harvey oswald was an active duty marine too. wright's been a raving america hating fruitloop for the last thirty years. his military service doesn't cut him that much slack.

here's a link to the full unedited sermon.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352661,00.html

the quotes seem just as crazy in context. what i find striking is the reaction of the parishioners. they're shouting "amen" at each insano statement. it's a whole church full of loons. obama spent twenty years there. it's ridiculous to say he didn't know what was going on.

and he apparently felt comfortable bring his kids up surrounded by these weirdos.

Wright, Sharpton and Jesse and the rest of these black civic dogooders don't want Obama to win because if he does it takes away their downtrodden, oppressed position. They lose some of their platform if a black is elected.

They want to continue to be oppressed so they can milk the system and maintain their sympathetic support. How do you continue to blame it on whitie when you have a black president?

You don't see these men speaking in cities headed by black mayors unless it is to complain about lack of federal funding or some other weak argument.

His point, if I understand it correctly is that when we say "God Bless America" we are mixing religion and government and religion is God's domain. You should not bless the actions of a government, that would be too similar to worshiping a government and you should only worship God, the lord and Jesus Christ.

We don't say:
God bless American's

We don't say:
God bless the American Government

I can see room for the twist of words and meaning here.

The ability to say "D--- my government" is not the same as saying "D--- it's people".

The list of bad things done under the watch of our government (war, slavery, mass murder) in the full speech places the context on those evils. The evil of governmental actions cannot receive God's blessing - that I think was the point.

If you do those things of evil (history says we have) then you are not blessed, only God is blessed...........or so the sermon says.

This is too cynical to comment upon. Neverthelss, I do agree Rev. Wreight can say whatever he wants. If in some misguided way he thinks he contributing to the advancement of Obam or black men and women in gneral, so be it. I think this is a case of perhaps winning a battle but losing the war.

But he seems to ignore all the good this country has done. If we're so bad name a country that's better. And as far as slavery, it was legal at the time. The laws were changed and its not legal now and when it was it was 150-200 years ago. BTW when did this country carry out mass murder?

Why do people constantly scream out "free speech" and all and think that somehow makes it ok to say anything? It only means the government can't punish you for it. It doesn't mean the millions of offended Americans can't express their outrage and vote accordingly. However, Wright's rants from the pulpit should very much throw his church's tax exempt status into question. I don't care what political bent he spews there. It's illegal to do that IF you want to be exempt from paying taxes while using your "non-profit" for electioneering.

Sorry don't take his wrong but you are so off the mark of what I am saying. So just to clarify what I hear you saying is that his statement about the white house and a black woman was appropriate for behind the pulpit, can you show me the passage in the bible that reflects this. When the constitution was wrote all those years ago it called for a separation of church and state it wasn't to keep the church out of gov. it was to keep the gov. out of the church but some ministers these days take it too far and he is one of them. He needs to tend to his flock and not to sensationalizing.

This is why the 'N' word just will not go away. Ever. Just classic 'N' behaviour.

The mainstream press ignored Wright as long as possible. Sean Hannity talked about Wright's vile sermons for an entire year, until finally, somebody at Fox News walked into the church and acquired the DVDs that included the clips we've all seen. The video changed everything. It became impossible to ignore.

ok, all the poor black people in the room raise your hand.

How do you know that he isn't actually speaking for a vast number of people who fell the same way he does? It's kinda like those crazy Australian versions of the map of the world - the US isn't at the center of it.

Perspective accounts for alot.

I see. It's free speach if he says what you want or something that will help you get what you want, it's an outrage if someone says something that opposes your position.
Maybe the marines should have taught him the difference between a lie and the truth.
Maybe the marines should have taught him not to spread hate in his speaches, maybe they should have taught him not to preach racism.

For a guy that thinks America is so bad, he's made a fine living for himself here.

Are you kidding?

Native Americans........Indians.

I was not around for it, both sides of my family were still on the other side of the ocean when it happened.

I picked out this website at random, just do a Google search to find more information.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/genocide5.htm

this from the most hateful person on OT.:rolleyes:

I think he probably does speak "for a vast number of people who feel the same way he does". But, IMO, this (his continued controversial speaking!) has created a political problem for Obama in the minds of many moderate voters.

That's the rub, whether it is reasonable or not, for BO.