Is this a machine pistol?

daepp · 05-21-2008, 09:08 AM

As seen on the road the other day in the I.E. Reminds me of the thread about the changing face of the police these days - but I couldn't find the post.

Is this a machine gun? Even if it's not, is it necessary for our M/C officers to display it in this manner? Maybe it is, but I'm not so sure.

andytheturtle · 09:12 AM

there is a folding stock on the other side, I beleve it is a G36K. Yes it is a MG.

scottmandue · 05-21-2008, 09:15 AM

You may also notice CHP and other police have added assault rifles to the shotguns attached to their dash board.

The revolution will not be televised...

competentone · 05-21-2008, 09:19 AM

I think its a laser "speed detector" gun.

onewhippedpuppy · 05-21-2008, 09:21 AM

A bit blatantly exposed, isn't it?

andytheturtle · 05-21-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by competentone

I think its a laser "speed detector" gun.

Speed detectors dont need muzzle breaks.

daepp · 05-21-2008, 09:23 AM

I wondered if it could be for speed enforcement. Although I do get the occasional ticket, I hope that's what that is.

onewhippedpuppy · 05-21-2008, 09:27 AM

Speed enforcement?! What would you do if you saw a cop aiming that thing at you?

Tobra · Tobra's Garage

evasive action!

daepp · 05-21-2008, 09:51 AM

Close - up Any Help?

scottmandue · 05-21-2008, 10:17 AM

If it is an automatic firearm it is possible the officer was on some kind of special duty, first time I have ever seen anything like that.

Maybe someone could PM mmarsh and get his opinion.

Icemaster · Icemaster's Garage

I dont see a mag, or if there is one it seems pretty inconsequential to be effective.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

Pretty silly to carry it that way. He can't leave his bike and have it mounted like that and it'd be a PITA to stash it in the side case every time he had to walk away from his bike. There's no magazine in it, which means it's useless if he needs it in a hurry. I don't know how such a gun could be useful to a motorcycle cop in any way. Those small SMG's aren't particularly accurate or easy to control and you certainly wouldn't want to use one on full auto with any innocent bystanders around. Machine guns in real life are absolutely nothing like what you see in the movies. They get very hot very fast, are hard to control and it takes a very long time to reload the magazines. Oh, and they're usually north of $10k.

Jeff Higgins · 05-21-2008, 10:25 AM

I cannot imagine why a department would want a motor officer visibly armed with something so intimidating to most citizens. The image it presents is simply all wrong.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

I cannot imagine why a department would want a motor officer visibly armed with something so intimidating to most citizens. The image it presents is simply all wrong.

I don't find it intimidating at all. I see it as an extreme waste of money. It probably cost about what the motorcycle cost and any criminal who knew how to shoot well could easily take down that cop before he'd be able to make use of that gun. Oh, and dropping the bike could get especially expensive with such a gun mounted on it.

Icemaster · Icemaster's Garage

12 years ago (last time I was out of the US...), I went through the metal detector in Munich airport getting ready for the trip back to the states. I was manually patted down as there was steel in my ankle. Very stern looking individual stood watching from about 25 feet away holding a similar weapon.

The last night we were in Munich was the eve of the opening events of Oktoberfest. The local constabulary walking platz doing security checks also had similar armaments. I doubt things have changed in the intervening years.

We're 20 years behind the times.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

MP-5's are standard fare in German airports, even on the trains to the soccer games. But those cops are in a lot fewer shootouts than ours are, perhaps because would-be criminals can't easily outgun the cops. For a gun culture like ours, I think our cops are severely undergunned.

daepp · 05-21-2008, 11:03 AM

You must understand - this is a small town, modestly affluent, a bedroom community. Almost no businesses, no murders.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

Then it sounds like a Homeland Security grant.

charleskieffner · 05-21-2008, 11:11 AM

try growing up in a one horsey town like snobbsdale, az and go off to europe for the summer in 1972 olympics in munchen.................

being smack dab in the middle of all the crap going down with EVERYONE running around in ADIDAS uniforms with HKS!

try that one on when all you have ever seen were winchesters colts .45's,.22's, bird snotguns hunting and .38's and .357's on cops around town!!!

BIG TIME WEAPON ID PROGRAM FORCED UP OUR KEESTERS at a very young age. by end of that one i could pick out a G-3, from a MP-5 without winking!

i look at this pic as probably guy was on special assignment to the govenator, some criminal being transported, or a whole slew of coke/meth/junk being transported from some warehouse to the cop shop evidence room or something perfectly normal.

as far as daily use, cops get far end discounts on these that would astound most of us as far as cost. our cost = mega mega mega $$$$$$$$. their cost........peanuts cuz they is LEO.

show me a cop that doesnt have FA in mexico now and i'll show you some dead ones and some asking for ASYLUM here in the u.s. its an everyday thing in europe mexico israel etc. now.

OUTGUNNED?????? ARE YOU ******* NUTS???? ..................NEVER!

MY BULL ELK DOESNT STAND A CHANCE THIS YEAR!