31,000 Scientists Can't Be Wrong

[Mule]

Originally Posted by dd74

That's right. And we got that over the long weekend driving north...again.

Cool! You must be a super hyper-hypermiler. Was it downhill both ways?
2005
"Mercedes, said that in a 3,210 mile/5,200 km sea-to-shining-sea test across America from New York to San Francisco, the 3.2 litre 224 bhp V6 diesel returned 31.04 miles per gallon."

2007
"Under its new testing, the EPA gives the ML320 19 mpg in the city and 24 mpg on the highway. Our overall observed mileage comported with those numbers, coming in at 21.6 mpg."

2008
"EPA mileage is 18/24, and if I believe the trip computer, I got around 20 in town and over 24 at a steady 70 or so on the open road."

[dd74]

Originally Posted by Mule

Cool! You must be a super hyper-hypermiler. Was it downhill both ways?
2005
"Mercedes, said that in a 3,210 mile/5,200 km sea-to-shining-sea test across America from New York to San Francisco, the 3.2 litre 224 bhp V6 diesel returned 31.04 miles per gallon."

2007
"Under its new testing, the EPA gives the ML320 19 mpg in the city and 24 mpg on the highway. Our overall observed mileage comported with those numbers, coming in at 21.6 mpg."

2008
"EPA mileage is 18/24, and if I believe the trip computer, I got around 20 in town and over 24 at a steady 70 or so on the open road."

They should keep theirs in better tune. Like mine.

[island911]

Originally Posted by dd74

That's a fairly ignorant statement. My diesel can run on bio fuel, free of cost if I get in good with a local restaurant. I fail to see the scam there.

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oh really? ..."free" ...you're going to pour local restaurant waste oil straight into your new Mercedes and think it won't cost you...Big!

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by dd74

That's a fairly ignorant statement.

You would certainly know.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by carnutzzz

Local restaurants won't supply America the 21 million gallons of diesel it consumes per day. Burning fryer grease is a novelty, not an energy solution. Nifty as it may be.

I believe he was referring to corn anyways. The scam is that you burn more fossil fuel per gallon with corn than you do a petroleum product.

You are correct sir, on both counts.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by dd74

The scam is the petroleum products - at least it is today. No one says ethanol is better than gasoline. It is simply an alternative to gasoline - a very good alternative because, just like in the Lotus video, if the engine management is reprogrammed, the car can get virtually the same mileage with a good amount more power.

You don't read the news much do you? The ethanol requirements in the US (and elsewhere) are driving food prices through the roof. Ethanol is a scam.

http://www.earth-policy.org/Updates/2008/Update69.htm
http://www.google.com/search?q=ethanol+drives+up+food+prices&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a

Ethanol is an economic loser.

Originally Posted by dd74

They should keep theirs in better tune. Like mine.

Maybe they should just smoke some of what you're smoking instead...

[Zef]

Originally Posted by Mule

Manbearpig on the run!

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Yup...they can be wrong...!

[Mule]

Originally Posted by dd74

They should keep theirs in better tune. Like mine.

So exactly what are you tuning on this diesel to nearly double the EPA estimate? You should tell Mercedes!

[dd74]

Originally Posted by island911

oh really? ..."free" ...you're going to pour local restaurant waste oil straight into your new Mercedes and think it won't cost you...Big!

It's always an option. Part of life is having "options." While you're sucking gas from a hose out of your wife's car to run your 911 (you do suck, don't you?), I'll do fine with anything from McDonald's to Ruth's Chris. The type of car, Mercedes not withstanding, is inconsequential to me as long as it runs.

Options: you should think that over in your staid little world, little man.

[dd74]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

You don't read the news much do you? The ethanol requirements in the US (and elsewhere) are driving food prices through the roof. Ethanol is a scam.

http://www.earth-policy.org/Updates/2008/Update69.htm
http://www.google.com/search?q=ethanol+drives+up+food+prices&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a

Ethanol is an economic loser.


Maybe they should just smoke some of what you're smoking instead...

Since when do you even care about the world, Snipper? Like I said, allotments and expectations are forcing the so-called food crisis. Adjust those and all will be fine.

Current gasoline and diesel costs are also forcing a food crisis.

Don't think out of the box much, do you? Ignorance is yours, Snipper. You wear it like charm.

[dd74]

Originally Posted by Mule

So exactly what are you tuning on this diesel to nearly double the EPA estimate? You should tell Mercedes!

I have. I've even questioned the trip computer. The one thing I did find out is ours is an in-between model that came out before Bluetec was in place with the catalytic-like converters (or whatever they are - Urea systems, I think they're called) on the exhaust system. Not having them accounts for better mileage and more power. The dealership says our mileage is entirely possible. Mercedes just says, "Yah!"

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by dd74

Where I went to college, yes, they were. Dummies through and through.

don't be so hard on yourself, where did you find a college full of conservatives, 1958?

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by Tobra

don't be so hard on yourself, where did you find a college full of conservatives, 1958?

ROFL! And we all liked Ike!

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

ROFL! And we all liked Ike!

GD Straight!

[island911]

Originally Posted by dd74

It's always an option. Part of life is having "options." While you're sucking gas from a hose out of your wife's car to run your 911 (you do suck, don't you?), I'll do fine with anything from McDonald's to Ruth's Chris. The type of car, Mercedes not withstanding, is inconsequential to me as long as it runs.

Options: you should think that over in your staid little world, little man.

With diesel costing 25% more than gas, I can see why you're so touchy on the topic.

Anyway, have fun sucking from Ronald McDonald to Ruth's Chris .. . Yes, you are the one sucking. And if you want to say your sucking for free, that's your business.

[dd74]

Originally Posted by Tobra

don't be so hard on yourself, where did you find a college full of conservatives, 1958?

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Your response is funny. But I don't know why.

[dd74]

Originally Posted by island911

With diesel costing 25% more than gas, I can see why you're so touchy on the topic.

Anyway, have fun sucking from Ronald McDonald to Ruth's Chris .. . Yes, you are the one sucking. And if you want to say your sucking for free, that's your business.

Now that's funny.

P.S.: I can afford the fuel.

[Az911]

Originally Posted by dd74

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Your response is funny. But I don't know why.

Because colleges are full of left wing loons.