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In the DC area a lot of singles mention their politics in their ads on Match.com and other places. I've seen plenty that read something to the effect of "Don't bother if you voted for...". I know it's different in the rest of the country, but DC is pretty divided in that respect.
They have Dem and GOP softball teams, the DNC and RNC have their own softball teams and plenty of Congressional offices do too. |
Could've been even worse than that Fint. She could have said she voted for GWB the second time around and the Iraq fiasco was evidence of GWB's brilliant leadership capabilities :)
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Here's an analysis of the 2004 Presidential election. It shows in general terms that the number of Republican counties in California outnumber the Democrat counties in terms of voter registration. However, Democrats control the more populated cities, and that is why they outnumber Republicans. It is also interesting to note the Orange County, Kern, and Santa Barbara areas which are highly anomalous http://flanalytics.com/Work%20files/Fall%20Line%20Analytics%20-%20California%20Precinct%20Political%20Index.pdf |
i run into this all the time. shame really, i love arguing politics. and having a good fight is sort of a turn on. but most liberal women, and liberals in general, can't argue. they just get offended if you contradict them.
she'll confine her dating to guys with gore 04 stickers on their hybrids, but quietly complain to her girlfriends that all the men in her life are wimps. and never make a connection between the two things. a few years back i got set up with a nurse. had a nice enough first date. dvorak at the hollywood bowl. steady stream of conversation about nothing. the wine helped. next day i found out that she was a "nurse" at planned parenthood. still creeps me out. |
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Where in the hell did i make any mention of her political leanings, vs him backtracking on what he claimed? Do you often call people that you wanted to date idiots, after calling them intelligent? Is that acceptable in your social circles? |
I still wanna know if got any...screw the political crap.....
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- What makes you think I am a strong Obama supporter??? You must be confusing me with someone else. |
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He got fuched of course... he picked up the tab as usual! Joe |
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I don't know what you guys are worried about. From what I hear he'll probably have changed his mind on these issues by the time he gets into office. :D |
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BTW - Bill Moyers had 2 guys on his pbs show last week, both had books out on how to save the party. I can't remember their names tho or the titles. One was old and one young - young guy was a Sr. Ed. at The Atlantic. You might enjoy reading the books. |
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"You have to get out of bed and talk to them some time" |
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It sounds like your romantic needs are very specific. Aside from physical appearance, you need someone who knows so little about public policy formation that she supports Bush and other similar (conservative) administrations. Good luck with that. |
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No she needed to know something and at least be able to defend her position other than say " McCain is old" |
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For some reason I can't edit posts...
What I was going to add was: Now, I understand what you meant, but is a small step down a very slippery slope between "I won't talk to someone if thet can't defend their political decisions!" to "That person shouldn't vote because they can't defend their political decisions!". |
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I guess that could be covered by a very broad reading of the Third Amendment. |
"Hey big boy, let me quarter your solider . . . "
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Or, depending on how she looks in the morning, the Eighth.
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This is fun...
If he gets a bit to physical, then she can envoke the protection of the fourth as well ;) |
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Voting is important, a priviledge as much as a right. If I am uninformed on a candidate or proposed law, I abstain from voting on that race. If everybody did this, we would have far fewer shady characters in DC Quote:
If I can't have a civil discussion on a broad range of subjects during an initial dinner date, why would I want a second? |
I've dated a few women who called themselves liberal, but then, once we got to discussing politics (not on the first date;)), were at least as conservative or libertarian as I am. They just confused the meanings of classical vs. contemporary liberalism.
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My personal experience is that most on the Left are simply not equipped for forensic challenge. Not only do they get frustrated (and, often, LOUD!) which further tongue-ties them, but their trembling incoherence is synergized by deeply personal umbrage at the destruction of the shibboleth du jour. They take it so personally. Then they try to get personal, which is a hoot! Just some random "I heard this witty cutting thing somewhere, so it will zing you" feebleness. It is truly awesome when somebody who doesn't know me and is being crushed starts with the "dumb" or "lay-person" or the "well, you're just _________". This is not to say that it's ALL people on the Left, or that moderates and righties are uniquely equipped for debate; however, most big-picture Leftist positions (and politicians) are sold to people -- the marketing analogy in an earlier post is very apt, IMHO -- and do not stand up to scrutiny. MSM thinks we're stupid and the message they sell and the messages they propagandize are not to be parsed, but swallowed whole. Simply look at the unquestioning, uncritical delivery of Obamessiah's message and its fawning evangelization to the masses. Another almost universal tactic is the topic-changement gambit. Once cornered on Topic X, you can actually see the panic, and then the "well what about (unrelated) Topic Y?!?!" ploy (and they obviously know as much about Topic Y as Topic X ... but desperation has set in). My usual response is a slight smirk and "oh, I'd be happy to talk about Topic Y, but how about we don't run away from Topic X just yet. Let's put a bookmark (bunny fingers quotes) on Topic Y and resolve Topic X first." Continued smirk. Another flavor of this "tactic" is "You are Conservative Evil Incarnate" approach, a/k/a the "I can't defend my position, so I'll attack some random Conservative position (or, more likely, a caricature thereof) as though you've espoused it". If we're talking specifically about Lefty Position A, which they have espoused and defended, when that gleam of panic strikes, I get Conservative Position A thrown in my face. Now, just to let facts clutter this up for a second, I haven't espoused Conservative Position A, nor do I believe or see much merit in Conservative Position A. I'll usually ask "are you looking for your keys over here because the light's better?" Add to this calculus the likelihood that, the hotter the girl, the more deference/ intellectual slack she's received from everyone in her life. I think 9dreizing saved himself, and the benighted twist, a lot of frustration. No naked, sweaty squirt has been worth my pandering to some dumb broad. If she had an informed position on any of the issues, then you can agree to disagree, or even have fun with your differences. Her position was specifically, and almost willfully unenlightened. If you're not specifically informed about politics, treat it like surgery, private aviation or big-game hunting: don't try to "dabble" in it. JP |
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Notice this: Your responses are insufficient in my view. You mentioned oil drilling, coal, racist wife, raised taxes, etc. All those assumptions are 100% unsupported and have no basis whatsoever in fact. Someone holding these opinions would be more incorrect, and less informed than someone holding no opinion whatsoever on those matters. Sorry, dude. You didn't dump her because she was underinformed. You dumped her because she lacks the misunderstandings you have. |
"Too old" is a good enough reason all by itself. And quite frankly, it betrays a level of awareness above that of the typical voter.
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Any time you're in Seattle, let me know. I can provide you with a virtually endless parade of beers, and all the debate for which you have time. This business of "libers' understanding is sooooooo shallow" doesn't pass the straight face test. Tell me again how the Liberal Media and the Liberal University System is packed with people who know nothing. Yes, college professors tend to be liberal. Yes, media people tend to be liberal. It amuses me endlessly to hear conservatives declare these people, the information traffickers in our society, to be poorly informed and without ammunition for debate. There is a direct correlation between level of education and liberalism. The correlation between level of education and conservatism is inverse. It is a negative "r" value. But it is very funny to hear folks pretend that liberals are not informed. Liberals are not armed with data or information or education. That's a good one. |
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At least he claims to be a conservative... So there. |
Damn Pazu, are you one of those Dan Patrick right wingers that everyone laughs at?
I sure hope not. That's one of the larger jokes that has ever set foot inside the Capitol doors in Austin. I'm sure you care not b/c Arizona is far more conservative, and runs a tighter show anyway, but I'm just curious, do you align yourself with that man, and is he your State Senator? I could care less what politcal team the woman I am dating roots for, and I'm not going to be turned off by her politcal stance. Some of the younger republican chicks are the worst lay in the world because they worry too much about the repercussions, others will blow your mind. |
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