Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 4157878)

- her association with, and possibly Membership in, the fringe Alaskan Independence Party calls into question her dedication to the US as a nation

Originally Posted by jmshepard (Post 4157912)

At least we know what she believes in.

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 4157913)

I have a proclivity for conjecture...it helps me jump the grouper. SmileWavy

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 4157919)

You lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas.

Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4157904)

She must be a better choice than I thought to elicit this kind of irrational response from the left. This is weird stuff.

Originally Posted by jmshepard (Post 4157912)

RWebb,
But at least we know what she believes in!

And it's likely not separation of church and state (I'll guess).

What does Barack believe in? He, like all of the other politicians is able to hide, camouflage, or nuance all of his beliefs.

Separation of church and state, most likely (I'll guess).

When he was pinned down on the "when does life begin question, he deflected it to "above my pay grade".

You got a definite scientific answer to that question - or is that above your pay grade also?

So what does he believe in? I don't know.

You ain't been paying attention. He believes in a flavor of Christianity. He's plenny edumacated I hears so I 'spect he probly leans towards science stuff rather than creationism (I'm pretty sure, not positive though).

Some believe he's a Muslim and maybe/probbly is soft on Al Quaida (or however the hell ya spell it).

HAHAHA!

Palin, if offered that question, would answer from her beliefs. That would stake her position and I would know exactly where she stands.

Cmon! You know as well as I do that she's downright agin' disposin' of babies in hospital trash cans! She can probly tell ya when life begins, too! Acordin' to what she believes of course.

Thankfully, At least we know what she believes in.

Thankfully. Yes indeed.

Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 4157952)

Gimme a break! If McCain had picked Bobby Jindal, I'd be singing a much different tune.

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 4157959)

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Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 4157952)

Gimme a break! If McCain had picked Bobby Jindal, I'd be singing a much different tune.

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4158049)

You're a hardcore supporter of the guy, but you're "really not sure" where he stands on major issues like seperation of church and state? Wow. Like it or not, it's pretty easy to know exactly where McCain and Palin stand.

Show me what I've ever posted that labels me a "hardcore supporter" of Obama - or anybody. You missed the light sarcasm, re whether Obama is a creationist.

Why would I NOT like knowing where EITHER candidate stands?

You should also remember that Obama had his pastor as a very visible CAMPAIGN ADVISOR. At least until the news broke that his pastor hates whitey and blames the government for 9/11.

Prior to his pastor blowing it big time at the press conference, probably because he was hyped up and in an unreasonable state of mind as he gave what were pretty much his parting words at the end of his carreer, his earlier sermons need to be analyzed and evaluated in a MUCH broader context than that percieved as useful for sound bytes applied to the benefit of the political opponent. It's EASY to peg the guy as a racist by not looking at the overall context of his carreer and the changing sociology of the times he preached in and/or referred to. He's a bright guy who's words are worthy of analysis by scholarly types but are also unfortunately too, too easy to be misappropriated by his foes and inserted into a context which has nothing to do whith what he originally said and why he said it. Nothing is simple, excepting the lazy minds eager to jump on interpretations of what was said that are inserted into an easily grasped statement supporting his detractors.

Suddenly, BO isn't so religious anymore, and maybe he slept through all of the pastor's sermons for the last 20 years.:rolleyes: Amazing how people and the media seem to forget such things.

And you naively believe that the guys sermons were ALL about what the sermon that was used in the news was about? Do you find it so incredibly easy to ignore all other accomplishments of the guy and his flock of parishoners? There were many, if you gave the effort to loolk into it.

Suddenly Obama isn't religious anymore? Uh....I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall. I quit. Hope your happy with the outcome of the election.

Originally Posted by tobster1911

So you hold that she is a failure because she does not run a tight enough ship at home and was unable to control her daughter??? Am I missing your point??? (bold mine)

Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 4157890)

Nope. You got my point.

What's funny is, she's not making any excuses for herself. You people are handling the excuses beautifully. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4158032)

Because of the penis?

:D

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 4158137)

Show me what I've ever posted that labels me a "hardcore supporter" of Obama - or anybody. You missed the light sarcasm, re whether Obama is a creationist.

Why would I NOT like knowing where EITHER candidate stands?

Prior to his pastor blowing it big time at the press conference, probably because he was hyped up and in an unreasonable state of mind as he gave what were pretty much his parting words at the end of his carreer, his earlier sermons need to be analyzed and evaluated in a MUCH broader context than that percieved as useful for sound bytes applied to the benefit of the political opponent. It's EASY to peg the guy as a racist by not looking at the overall context of his carreer and the changing sociology of the times he preached in and/or referred to. He's a bright guy who's words are worthy of analysis by scholarly types but are also unfortunately too, too easy to be misappropriated by his foes and inserted into a context which has nothing to do whith what he originally said and why he said it. Nothing is simple, excepting the lazy minds eager to jump on interpretations of what was said that are inserted into an easily grasped statement supporting his detractors.

And you naively believe that the guys sermons were ALL about what the sermon that was used in the news was about? Do you find it so incredibly easy to ignore all other accomplishments of the guy and his flock of parishoners? There were many, if you gave the effort to loolk into it.

And you naively believe that the guys sermons were ALL about what the sermon that was used in the news was about? Do you find it so incredibly easy to ignore all other accomplishments of the guy and his flock of parishoners? There were many, if you gave the effort to loolk into it.

Suddenly Obama isn't religious anymore? Uh....I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall. I quit. Hope your happy with the outcome of the election.
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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4157009)

You'd get a high-five for that one!:p

Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 4157952)

Gimme a break! If McCain had picked Bobby Jindal, I'd be singing a much different tune.

Originally Posted by tobster1911 (Post 4158488)

Refreshing honesty. :eek:

So how do you propose she should have enforced abstinence on her daughter?

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4158500)

Chastity belt.