Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4157125)

I'm still looking for the one human on earth that didn't defy their parents and make stupid decisions as a teen. Anyone?

Originally Posted by MichiganMat (Post 4157281)

The interesting part of this is that Palin vetoed a bill to support teen mothers:

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_slashed_funding_to_help.html?hpid=artslot

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4157334)

How virtuous. He knows that he can save face and distance himself from the mudslinging. All the while his little loser blogger minions are busy making up stories and photoshops.

I don't look at that crap (I'm sure Obama doesn't either). Is it high quality stuff like Byron and Mule post here?

It's all for the better I suppose, they're so worked up because of the obvious threat she poses to their "destiny".

Oh, I don't know. Haven't percieved that the Obama supporters that I've been in contact with feel threatened - bemused perhaps. But, whether you realize it, or would admit it, there are more than a few Repubs that aren't entrenched in the evangelical base of the party that are also bemused.

Kurt, I also have a daughter, so we're in the same boat. This poor girl's life has no place in the public eye, those who tormet her are quite frankly dickless cowards.

That's very true (as pertains to anyone tormenting her - especially added to the torment the poor girl must be experiencing due to the mistake she made).

Unfortunately, when a dickless political candidate self righteously promotes "family values" it's bound to happen since it will inevitably bring up in some the old saw "Do as I say, not as I do!

No man (or woman) with any sense of integrity or virtue publicly abuses a 17 year old pregnant girl to further his agenda. Can you imagine the fury of her father?

What man seeking to further his agenda is doing that? Clearly not Obama.

Originally Posted by kstarnes (Post 4157307)

It is sad. As I said in another thread, and as a Father of a Daughter, I would not think very highly of folks making judgments about my family and how we should live, especially the folks who know absolutely nothing about my family and I except what they might read in the press.

It does boggle the brain, yes? :)

Best,

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 4157392)

...I'm more concerned about the character of some of the posters here.

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 4157390)

a dickless political candidate

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 4156999)

Palin attended University of Idaho. So did I. Our ages are presumably not that different. So I'm wondering, recalling my time there, recounting my experiences, to see if I can remember nailing her while I was there. She does look vaguely familiar.

Originally Posted by kstarnes (Post 4157094)

I hope my little girl doesn't make the same mistake, but all of the good parenting and support I can provide will not guarantee she doesn't. Don't you understand this?

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 4157129)

Lemme get this straight. Mule and Byron are okay, but you're saying Shaun is out-of-bounds? Is that your position?

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 4157404)

With all due respect, it's taken just this regretful issue to raise your concern?

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 4157412)

WTF does "jumped the shark" even mean?

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 4156999)

Palin attended University of Idaho. So did I. Our ages are presumably not that different. So I'm wondering, recalling my time there, recounting my experiences, to see if I can remember nailing her while I was there. She does look vaguely familiar.

Originally Posted by tobster1911 (Post 4157407)

Quite a classy act yourself. Nice to know you are above snide comments.

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 4157433)

Consider who I was adressing. I (regretfully, now that I've done it) lowered myself and threw his crudeness back to him.

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 4157433)

Consider who I was adressing. I (regretfully, now that I've done it) lowered myself and threw his crudeness back to him.

This whole issue reeks with hypocrisy, on BOTH sides!

Do you think what is going on would be any different were the polital party names swapped? I don't.

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4157415)

DARISC, let's not play coy. In the last few days I've seen posted here:
Palin is a Nazi
Palin hid her daughter's first child by pretending it was hers
Palin thinks Iraq is a holy war
Palin is forcing the daughter to wed

You're absolutely right! That NEVER happens here directed at liberals (envision green ink if it's not obvious).

Not to mention the numerous personal attacks on the daughter, Palin, and the husband. There's a number of people on this BBS more than happy to play the game. Even worse, some of these created rumors have been picked up as news by the media. Of course it's been the left leaning networks, but they've still been broadcasting hate on a national level.

Yes indeed! Happens ALL the time here. The fact that this board is heavily weighted to the right means that, of course there's more right wing crap than left wing crap. That doesn't change the fact that it's ALL crap.

I was actually not speaking of Obama in regards to furthering an agenda, I was speaking of the bloggers that spew this filth. Obama doesn't need to stoop to their level, though he reaps the benefits each time one of these lies is reported as fact.

I just posted that if the Dem and Repub labels were swapped in this current set of circumstances, the same type ignoramuses would be talking and acting the same way. It's despicable and is not exclusive or more common in one party or the other.

Why is promoting family values self-rightous?

The fabric of family values has been shredded over the years in this country and in my opinion it's inperative that they SHOULD be promoted, but not politically in a partisan self righteous way. What decent human being DOESN'T want there to be a predominant system of strong family values in this country?

What is wrong with trying to make the right choices? We try, and sometimes we get it right, sometimes not. Right now my poll is 54-0 in regards to pre-maritial sex. Were we all raised as hippies? Or are we overall good moral people that fell prey to hormones, emotion, and the stupidity of youth?

In terms of the aforementioned shredded fabric of family values, yes we WERE overall good people - before things began coming apart at an ever accelerating pace the last 60 or so years. Now the concept of morality is less taken for granted, regardless of political affiliation, and rather than a concept we take for granted has become a yearned for concept, rightly percieved to have become weakened to the point that political entities consider its advocacy as a weapon in their political arsenal, which is sadly detrimental to this countries very big problem of being split into warring partisan factions, which is NOT what the founding fathers intended and which, seriously, could bring this great country to its knees.

Originally Posted by MichiganMat (Post 4157281)

The interesting part of this is that Palin vetoed a bill to support teen mothers:

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.[b] And by "slashed" I mean, "increased funding to $3.9M instead of the originally budgeted $5M"