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my pile of evidence that she did something wrong is as big as your pile that shows she wrote a good brief.

a top quality staff person would have responded immediately in the fashion Don suggested.

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Old 01-28-2009, 12:50 PM
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my pile of evidence that she did something wrong is as big as your pile that shows she wrote a good brief.
Which is precisely why i didn't say anything in this thread until i read your diatribe.
Old 01-28-2009, 12:52 PM
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if someone is calling out a subordinate in that way, the calling out should be at a minimum error free

So you screw up, get called on it and your response will be to spell check?

Wow people.
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Which is precisely why i didn't say anything in this thread until i read your diatribe.
so according to you BOTH sides are wrong for jumping to conclusions but you only choose to correct one.
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So you screw up, get called on it and your response will be to spell check?

Wow people.
I'm sorry, but writing an illegible error-filled email isn't also "Screwing up"? Don't you think leaders should lead by example? Or are you one of those "do as i say, not as i do" types?

Generally speaking, when exhorting an employee to act more professionally it is not good form to do so in poorly punctuated woefully spelled text. You agree?
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so according to you BOTH sides are wrong for jumping to conclusions but you only choose to correct one.
I have no evidence that she is wrong, no.
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best cpa i ever worked with was a horrible writer. his writing looked like it was written by a 12yr old. but damned if his stuff isn't tight as a drum. nobody but nobody i have worked with before or since does a better job.

the point is the person in charge said the work was crap. responding with 'well your note was poorly written and contained errors' is childish.
and btw these folks get paid for the product they put out, not for inter-office emails. who gives a darn if sup took time to correct her email?
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who gives a darn if sup took time to correct her email?
Obviously, a lot of the posters on this thread. If those that have so opined are representative of a larger slice of America, lots of us do.

Using spell check is fast, easy, and can really help you to not come across as an illiterate moron.

Besides the military the most employees i've ever had at one time was 3, so i'm hardly an expert, but IME you have to set the example for them to follow. If your example is petty, poorly spelled personal attacks then how can you expect your employees to take the high road when you didn't?

Sure, you can just fire them, but good help is HARD to find.
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Biotch continues to make crazy demands and send stupid emails. Then she goes all Sybill on the phone and is completely solicitous and drippy sweet.
I'm thinking... bipolar, maybe?
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what is petty about not being happy with the work she did?

petty is 'i don't like the blue paperclip you used'.
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and the only personal attacks i've seen are 'bi-polar' and 'damn women' type stuff on this thread. sup didn't call her fat or ugly or such things. she said she should be embarassed by the work she submitted.

that is not a personal attack. it's not terribly professional and marching right into sup's office with the email and a 'hey that was a bit rough but how about some specifics so i can get you what you want' would've shown our girl to be the more mature person. but not necessarily the better atty.
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best cpa i ever worked with was a horrible writer. his writing looked like it was written by a 12yr old. but damned if his stuff isn't tight as a drum. nobody but nobody i have worked with before or since does a better job.

the point is the person in charge said the work was crap. responding with 'well your note was poorly written and contained errors' is childish.
and btw these folks get paid for the product they put out, not for inter-office emails. who gives a darn if sup took time to correct her email?
Worked for a guy who could not write to save his life. He is highly successful though.

One day my webmaster calls me over and asks my advice on an email he had just received.

It said,

the

that's it, one word.
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and the only personal attacks i've seen are 'bi-polar' and 'damn women' type stuff on this thread.
Surmising that she might be bipolar based on VrrrooomGirl saying her sup has extreme mood swings is not a personal attack.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:41 PM
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it's a personal comment. didn't say it wasn't justified.
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Seduce her, then file a sexual harassment suit? Dammit, there's only one way to solve this problem, and it starts with seduction.
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Take a look at the work you submitted with a fresh pair of eyes. Try and read it from this supervisors perspective and ask yourself if she has any justification for her position. She may have a point that your work was not up to standard, she may have explained the assignment badly or she may be totally or partly wrong. Then, decide how you should react.
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The author sent me a PM with more details. Based on what she told me her supervisor has some issues that go far beyond her relationship with Vrroomgirl.
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