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| Registered Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg & Vancouver 
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 So what are you on? I'd like to get my hands on some... 
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| Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South of Heaven 
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| coulda, woulda, shoulda Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Louisiana 
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			Hey Hugh! still undead so far.  How the hell are you?
		 
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| drag racing the short bus Join Date: May 2002 Location: Location, Location... 
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 I see enough new Mustangs, GT, Shelby and otherwise, to know this segment of American automobiles, ugly or not, is certainly not dead. There is always a buyer. In the Camaro's case, maybe several million buyers. 
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| Registered Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorado, USA 
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 The Mustang has been selling at around 100-125K units per year for the last couple of years. At that pace, it would take 20-30 years to sell "several million." (Of course, Ford is hardly selling any Mustangs at all currently, a few thousand per month). The market for this 60's "retro" stuff is getting smaller every year, as the 60s generation dies off. The new Camaro will do well at first (just like the PT Cruiser did), but it will be dead and gone (again) long before several million are sold. | ||
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			Ahhh, but we in our 60's don't have to do a lot of long range planning, do we?  So, if it doesn't sell well, we won't care.   Gotta admit, I'm not as crazy about the lines as some here...but I'll look, when/if the begin to show up in this backwater. 
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|  03-17-2009, 10:58 PM | 
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| Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South of Heaven 
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|  03-18-2009, 12:22 AM | 
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| Double Trouble Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North of Pittsburgh 
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			Time to grow back that mullet.
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|  03-18-2009, 04:05 AM | 
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			Chrysler beat them to the punch:   
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|  03-18-2009, 04:21 AM | 
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| Back in the saddle again Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Central TX west of Houston 
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 I like the side view. I think the side view is much better than the newest mustang. Dodge and GM got the fenders right when they didn't go with a flat topped fender like Ford did with the Mustang. I'm curious to see one in person. I think the Challenger looks great, much better than the Mustang. I don't know that I'd have any of the three since in the next few years all three will be everywhere. I try hard to NOT be just like everyone else. 
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| Back in the saddle again Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Central TX west of Houston 
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And Ford beat Chrysler to the punch, but it's not always about the first one on the field.  This isn't highlander, but it is nearly a battle of 3 immortals.  In this case, as in the past, the answer isn't "there can be only one".  Competition fuels this type of thing.  The which is better debate that can usually never really be answered.  This will turn into a three way shootout.  I suspect that if there hasn't already, there will be a "Mustang vs CHallenger vs Camaro" article in every car mag before too long.
		 
				__________________ Steve '08 Boxster RS60 Spyder #0099/1960 - never named a car before, but this is Charlotte. '88 targa  SOLD 2004 - gone but not forgotten Last edited by masraum; 03-18-2009 at 04:37 AM.. | ||
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			That'll work very well in: 1. A recession 2. An environment where gas goes back up to $4 a gallon in a year or two 3. A scenario where GM gets federalized or broken up in BK 4. A democratic administration who wants everyone to drive SmartCars or ride bicycles. Not a "bad" car per se. I'm not a huge fan of the design, but I can understand how some might like it. Absolutely the wrong move right now though. Another GM case of putting exactly the wrong car on the market at the wrong time. 
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			I saw a black Camaro in Ann Arbor a few months ago. In the past two weeks: A black one with a large induction hood which had twin white/sile stripes on it, the stripes were no where else on the car. A light turquoise/teal one, looked terrible in the fingernail polish like color. A handsome maroon one, I took a poor picture in dim morning light. http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Automobile/?action=view¤t=Camaro-1.jpg  They will sell a lot of these, good on gas, fast and looks great. 
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			Both are huge in person, with the Challenger taking the overall crown in hugeness. Strange from behind it looks top heavy, and reminds me of the decorations that people stick in their garden that look like a fat old lady bending over. Although it's still big, the Mustang carry's it's girth a little better in person in my opinion. I can't get past the Camaro's boomerang mirrors, or it's unergonomic interior. Not that I would buy any of them but if I had to choose, I'd spring for the Mustang in Bullitt trim with the upcoming ecoboost engine (a la SVO). | ||
|  03-18-2009, 05:22 AM | 
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|  03-18-2009, 05:23 AM | 
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 The stock Camaro V6, will be faster than the stock Mustang V8 and get 26 mpg. My first car (both plastic model when 6 yrs old and real car when 19 yrs old) was a 1966 Mustang. I'd get a Mustang, I grew up in Dearborn (across from the Rouge Plant) afterall. 
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|  03-18-2009, 05:28 AM | 
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| Double Trouble Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North of Pittsburgh 
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			sure ford has already released and killed the retro T-bird and these morons come out with this sow now. what a bunch of dopes. are they that clueless as to what is going on?
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|  03-18-2009, 05:33 AM | 
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 Time will tell. 
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