Spotted, New Camaro?

[BeyGon]

I thought I saw a new Camaro in Irvine at lunch today. I was waiting for the left turn light when it went by and never had a chance to catch it or even see where it went. Are they on the road yet?

[Dottore]

Yup. There's a few around.

I went to the GM dealer to have a look on the weekend, but he wanted to see THREE pieces of ID before agreeing to call me for a test drive.

What is wrong with these people? They're staring unemployment and food stamps in the face and act like they're holding the keys to paradise in their sweaty hands.

I would have a hard time buying one of these things—no matter how much I might like it—just because of the low-life swine you have to deal with to get one.

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by Dottore

I would have a hard time buying one of these things—no matter how much I might like it—just because of the low-life swine you have to deal with to get one.

Are you referring to the government bureaucracy you'd have to deal with if you had warranty problems and GM was bankrupt?

[Heel n Toe]

I already dislike 'em. Spotted is much worse, IMO.

[kach22i]

I seen this teal one twice, makes me want to puke.

The black one, the yellow one, the red one, the maroon one are gorgeous, I love them.

I have not seen a silver one, I bet it would be smok'n hot with a red interior.

[onlycafe]

speed yellow with measles? what the heck is that?

[dd74]

Whatever...

At least they look marginally better than the Challenger.

Which isn't saying much at all.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Dottore

Yup. There's a few around.

I went to the GM dealer to have a look on the weekend, but he wanted to see THREE pieces of ID before agreeing to call me for a test drive.

What is wrong with these people? They're staring unemployment and food stamps in the face and act like they're holding the keys to paradise in their sweaty hands.

I would have a hard time buying one of these things—no matter how much I might like it—just because of the low-life swine you have to deal with to get one.

Probably the biggest complaint associated with my wife's old Cadillac SRX. For service, you have to deal with the same dealers that are used to doing oil changes on Cavaliers for $19.95. That sort of service (or lack thereof) is a HUGE obstacle to Cadillac ever being a true premium brand. Many premium brands also provide you with a premium dealership experience.

[dd74]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Probably the biggest complaint associated with my wife's old Cadillac SRX. For service, you have to deal with the same dealers that are used to doing oil changes on Cavaliers for $19.95. That sort of service (or lack thereof) is a HUGE obstacle to Cadillac ever being a true premium brand. Many premium brands also provide you with a premium dealership experience.

Did you try going to a Cadillac dealer-service dept? The ones out here don't mix service bays with the common mass GM cars.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by dd74

Did you try going to a Cadillac dealer-service dept? The ones out here don't mix service bays with the common mass GM cars.

Yup, three different ones in the area in fact. They have Cadillac service advisors, but they also serve the common folk. I think the techs are all shared. Overall the level of service was pretty dissappointing. Had I spent $45k for it new, I would have been very unhappy.

[Dottore]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

That sort of service (or lack thereof) is a HUGE obstacle to Cadillac ever being a true premium brand. Many premium brands also provide you with a premium dealership experience.

I know of no GM product dealer in this part of the world that will provide you with anything even remotely resembling a "premium dealership experience".

Contrast that to the Lexus, Accura, Porsche, Mercedes and BMW dealers—all of which at least aim at that objective.

The GM guys here are aggressive, unsavoury, chainsmoking (just outside the front door) goombahs that smell of garlic and gum disease and who have the interpersonal skills of a very large reptile.

[dd74]

IIRC there are a couple Caddy dealerships that deal only in Caddys on the West Side of L.A.

[Zef]

Still GM (government motor) crap

[onewhippedpuppy]

IIRC there are a couple Caddy dealerships that deal only in Caddys on the West Side of L.A.

So if they only want to sell cars in LA, they're set!

[dd74]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

So if they only want to sell cars in LA, they're set!

Guess so. They sure do sell a lot of CTS here. I'm seeing a lot CTS-Vs too.

Now there's an idea - have an enterprising Cali buy Cadillac from the soon-to-be-defunct GM.

A Cali-based car company like Cadillac would clean up out here.

[onewhippedpuppy]

This is KS, the Big 3 bias is still strong here so there's plenty of Caddys around. I really like the new CTS though, I can't fault anyone for buying one of those. Shame the dealership experience isn't as good as the car. As a local counterpoint, the local luxury dealer (Lexus, Jaguar, Porsche, Mercedes, Acura) has exceptional service. Many of the convenience features that they include with every new purchase the Caddy/GM dealers don't even offer.

[m21sniper]

I have an earlier Catera. Great car. Handling is phenomenal. Of course it is German...

[dd74]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

I have an earlier Catera. Great car. Handling is phenomenal. Of course it is German...

Completely different car from the Catera.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Were I shopping for a car in that price range (yeah right), the CTS-V and Jaguar XFR would be at the top of my list. Not an AMG Mercedes, not a BMW. Oddly enough, I think the M5 would be dead last, as I find the C63 AMG more appealing as well.

[robert944]

This one was for sale at the 24hr Rolex in Feb. Track ready, wouldn't mind taking a few laps in it




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