Audiophiles: Did You Get Dupped Into the CD Craze?

[ramonesfreak]

Originally Posted by 89911

Good arguement for, I must agree. I guess some of my issues is that I really don't get nostalgic for older music, which is what vinyl mostly represents. The newer music made may not transpire to vinyl as well, since gone are the days of bands like the Allman and Doobie brothers 12 piece bands that have a lot going on. Hip Hop on vinyl? That would make it even worse in my opinion.

New bands do indeed translate well to vinyl. Beck's LPs sound amazing. Andrew Bird's LPs sound great. Wilco's are amazing. I could go on and on

The problem is, they can be quite expensive. I think I paid almost $30 for Andrew Bird. But then again, the new Beck vinyl was about $16, 180 gram and, came with a code for a free MP3 download of the entire record

Newly released, newly availabe Neil Young live at Massey Hall is stunning to hear on vinyl http://www.musicdirect.com/product/82574

But yes, even with new vinyl, much of the brand new stuff is re-releases of old stuff.... which i think is great...cause im obsessed with older music

and how awsome it is to be able to hear Metallica's first three records on heavy weight 1/2 speed vinyl.

and Saturday, Jane's Addiction's two best LPs are being released on 180 gram. I cant freakin wait

Saturday the 18th is "record store day", btw... so everyone go out and support your local independent music shop

[89911]

I help but thinking of this character as you lovers of vinyl go on and on:

[ramonesfreak]

heaven

[GO DAWG GO]

Metalica is on vinyl in "new" condition. I saw that "white covered magnetic lines of flux in iron ore" album. What ever it is called the other day at BEST BUY! They also have a new Police "LIVE" and Guns and Roses albums too. I also bought a "New" Black Sabbath "Paranoid" album for $12 buck the other day, 180 gram sounds very good. My son likes Tony Iommi the lead guitarist.

I have noticed that my Police CDs and Vinyl sound as good as most of my Steely Dan. Dan was known for there high quality recordings that are evident, detailed and well balanced. The industry used the Aja album as a sound engineers bar Thats why I kind of bench mark the quality as reference material.

What tonearm cartridges are you guys using?

[GO DAWG GO]

Macho Libre???????

[ramonesfreak]

Originally Posted by GO DAWG GO

Metalica is on vinyl in "new" condition. I saw that "white covered magnetic lines of flux in iron ore" album. What ever it is called the other day at BEST BUY! They also have a new Police "LIVE" and Guns and Roses albums too. I also bought a "New" Black Sabbath "Paranoid" album for $12 buck the other day, 180 gram sounds very good. My son likes Tony Iommi the lead guitarist.

I have noticed that my Police CDs and Vinyl sound as good as most of my Steely Dan. Dan was known for there high quality recordings that are evident, detailed and well balanced. The industry used the Aja album as a sound engineers bar Thats why I kind of bench mark the quality as reference material.

What tonearm cartridges are you guys using?

i also have the 180gram paranoid album. love it !!

Metallica is out in heavy weight vinyl, 1/2 speed mastered by Mobile Fidelity in both standard 33 1/3 vinyl and 45RPM- Kill Em All, Master of Puppets and Ride the Lightning

[ramonesfreak]

i just use a Grado black. My TT probably deserves slightly better, but frankly, I dont think its work spending $800 on a cartridge for it , and set up right, the Grado sounds very nice

i wish i had a TT that served a better cartridge

[GO DAWG GO]

89911,

Obviously, we must at least be entertaining because you keep replying Actually were are really not strange guys, just like good music, except country and enjoy tinkering.

Those Greek bastuds in the film earlier were some of the people Freud was analyzing in his memoirs. I could see some poop an a piece of vinyl and them all going into cardiac arrest...

I did like the look on some of those womans faces when the hubby's came clean about how many euros they spent. It was obvious a few had not realized the "Obsession" I dont think my lovely wife has a clue how much my equipment cost or how much has gone into hi performance turbo charging!

I hope she doesnt read these posts...

[imcarthur]

Originally Posted by GO DAWG GO

What tonearm cartridges are you guys using?

You mentioned that you were using a Grado. From what I remember the Black Widow had knife edge bearings like the earlier SMEs. That would rule out the heavier mass MCs unless you like tonearm chatter. A Grado should be a great match.

Ian

[ramonesfreak]

Originally Posted by GO DAWG GO

89911,

Obviously, we must at least be entertaining because you keep replying Actually were are really not strange guys, just like good music, except country and enjoy tinkering.

Those Greek bastuds in the film earlier were some of the people Freud was analyzing in his memoirs. I could see some poop an a piece of vinyl and them all going into cardiac arrest...

I did like the look on some of those womans faces when the hubby's came clean about how many euros they spent. It was obvious a few had not realized the "Obsession" I dont think my lovely wife has a clue how much my equipment cost or how much has gone into hi performance turbo charging!

I hope she doesnt read these posts...

i love country - just for the record (haha), some of my most cherished vinyl are my Merle Haggard, Patsy Cline, Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson records. Gosh darn they sound good, especially Patsy Cline. WOW

[GO DAWG GO]

Ian,

Whatta ya think of the Shure V-15 type III and V. I know you like this stuff because you know what your talking about....

Its not hard to figure out if a guy likes airplanes when he can tell you about every type at an airport....

Right?

[GO DAWG GO]

For me its called "High Compliance" 30 CU or more! Did the math....

Capische?

[imcarthur]

Shure has always built good cartridges but never great ones. Joe Grado built many great ones. I sold them in the early 80s. I don't know the current lineup now that his son runs the business. The last cartridge I owned was a Koetsu Black. But that was on a Syrinx PU3 tonearm & later on an Rega RB300 many, many years ago that I had on a Linn TT. I honestly have been out of the analogue loop for so long I am a dinosaur but 'in the day' I always preferred moving coils.

Ian

[afterburn 549]

Originally Posted by srandallf

i love country - just for the record (haha), some of my most cherished vinyl are my merle haggard, patsy cline, johnny cash, waylon jennings and willie nelson records. Gosh darn they sound good, especially patsy cline. Wow

absolutely !

[imcarthur]

I got thinking about nostalgia as mentioned above. The 1980s were the peak of the ‘stereo’. It was a really fun time to be in the business. Sex, drugs & rock ‘n roll. I was married so only 2 out of 3 for me. The arrival of CD created a huge boom in hifi – speakers, amps, cables etc. It even helped to sell an amazing amount of vinyl gear but mainly at the upper end. People were buying their last turntable. It was fun selling hi-end hifi because a lot of people really loved music & a lot of money poured in. At one point I was selling SME (the V), Koetsu, Sumiko, MIT & QUAD. All at the top of their game.

The 90s brought the curse of home theater & custom install. The video side ate up the budget leaving a pittance for audio. So many people bought great video setups with truly lousy hifi. Similar in the custom install business, where distribution amps & control & programming the control were 90% of the budget. POS inwall & in-ceiling sales soared. The explosion of MP3s & iPods ensured that the up & coming generation knows absolutely nothing about good sound, as well as sticking a big cold knife into those producing & distributing it i.e. the record companies.

Am I nostalgic for the good ole days? Yeah, a bit . . .

Ian

[ramonesfreak]

we used to have quite a few hi-fi shops here. we have 2 left, and i am surprised they even exist. one of them, deals only in hi-end analog gear and nothing else. how they survive, i have no idea.

the niche for this gear is so incredibly small i dont understand how they pay the rent. not only must a person have an interest, but they must also have money.

the analog only shop in my town, wouldnt dare sell a Rega P3. Their turntables start at about $5,000 without the arm and cart.... who in hell buys this stuff? i surely cant afford it, though i desire it very much

EDIT: there must be alot of orthopaedic surgeons that love to listen to vinyl in my town :-)

[imcarthur]

Where in NY? I probably know the dealers. Turntable sales for dealers are pretty slim unless they really focus on it & have a big enough market & even then . . . the used market sucks much of the new business away.

We sell Rega in Canada but I have no involvement with it since I work south of the border & there is a different US distributor. Roy G. from Rega is a class act. He beat me by one shot in a skeet shooting contest during a dealer trip in '82 but still insisted on giving me the prize (that he had bought). And he had caterers provide a seafood feast in a rathole garage at the range. I have never seen a mountain of prawns like that before or after.

Ian

[ramonesfreak]

across the lake from you. the two shops we have do deal in Rega. one shop always has lower end Rega tables in stock and they seem to stay in business with custom installations. the other shop is more high end tables. dont think i have ever seen a lower end Rega there, though obviously they can get you one. they do have the higher end Regas, along with Linn etc... very very nice stuff. but i cant understand who is buying it in such a small town

[imcarthur]

Yes, I knew/know some dealers there, but I haven't been in 9 years or so since one of my cohorts lives 'there' & does Upstate New York. Every time I drive 'there', something happens to my car. I left my lights on once in a dealer's parking lot (I forget who but they were making Merlin speakers in the basement) & killed the battery. Another time I locked my keys in the trunk at a hotel.

Ian

[imcarthur]

From my older database . . . how many still exist?



Ian