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Danimal16 05-14-2009 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4662687)
I couldnt be a cop either.

+1 here.

I kinda look at it this way, once the perp makes himself a target, that target should be engaged, fully.

Danimal16 05-14-2009 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 4662685)
Next time I should do it for the cop. That should be all right, it should not cost the city any bucks.

why is it that there weren't too many crazy police chases in the old days and now it happen so often. Is it that they were never caught on film or not reported. WTF happen to when a cop red lights go on, you stop. If I knew the cops would not chase me in that city, I run too.


They lost the choke hold and even further back, in some states running from the cops got you shot.

It is all about the lack of respect, not only for the police, but authority on a whole.

Danimal16 05-14-2009 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nota (Post 4662789)
once a-pon a time [ 1964 ] the local cop could and did shoot to kill
for driving away from them

two 16 year olds in a 58 chevy ragtop with a 348 panicked
and tryed to out run a cop
he shot both of them in the back of their heads
scum bag city officials gave the PIG a medal for that bit of hero act :eek:

sorry but your ''law'' SUCKS
I knew both kids
and no they were not criminals or dopers or gang members
just normal high school kids
who did a dumb thing
and were murdered by the man
for nothing

Yep I remember those days.

Bad situation for your friends. Abuse of power??? Well that seems to be situation in the case you cite. The frustrating part deals with the other side of the coin.

The folks today show a wanton disregard for the safety of others. When robbers and rapists flee, I have no problem with using deadly force. If these fugitives kill somebody in the chase, well the cops get blamed, and if the cops kill somebody in a chase associated accident they get blamed. But fear and respect of authority at the line level, with the beat cop, should be able to stop these activities. Or the Courts throw the book at these punks. The fear of accountability needs to be reinstated. Until such a time, this will continue. Respect for the law.

Sometimes I wonder if these clowns do this knowing that they have a chance for a law suit if the Police mess up as it seems to be in the case immediate?

CHA CHING!

GH85Carrera 05-14-2009 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 4662564)
That one kick.....Why?

I can empathize with the officer, but you put it in front of a jury full of LA morons, and *ding*ding*ding* jackpot.

The new law in harddrive land:

You run from the police and endanger others, all bets are off. Police can use sharpshooters, automatic weapons, dogs....any means the policeman on the scene deem necessary to bring the chase to a halt. All wrongful death/injury lawsuits are resulting from the individuals failure to stop are illegal. Period.

+10

We need a new law that is simple. If a perp is driving in a manner willing to kill anyone in his way, they loose the rights as a human. After blowing through a stop sign or stop light, and risking the lives of the citizens of the area the driver is stripped of rights. Let the cops do a Rodney King until their arms are tired, and kill him if they want. Right on TV for all the other runners to see. If everyone KNOWS in their heart they will die if they run, only the hard core criminals will run.

Blowing through red lights and stop signs and driving at crazy speeds can and will kill the innocent. It is no different than a crazy man walking around shooting at random people. Every light he runs is exactly like firing a bullet into a random building. He has no regard for anyone else. Eliminate the sucker from the gene pool. I vote for the Hard Drive law!

sammyg2 05-14-2009 05:44 AM

No good will come from this.
A bad cop gets in serious trouble for being a total dumass and makes the rest of the good cops look bad.

A total punk low-life hits the lottery and gets millions of dollars from joe taxpayer. he ends up using that money to be a wealthy punk, getting in bigger trouble, costing joe taxpayer even more in the long run.

it would have been better for all of us if the dumass cop and the punk got into a shooting match and took each other out.

BeyGon 05-14-2009 06:07 AM

Rodney King

Gogar 05-14-2009 07:08 AM

Yeah. We should give the cops RPGs so they can end the pursuits earlier.

URY914 05-14-2009 07:16 AM

Are these car chases an everyday thing in LA?

Moses 05-14-2009 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by slodave (Post 4662425)
Police chase ends with a boot to the head...

Nice kick. That would have been good from 50 yards.

rammstein 05-14-2009 07:33 AM

Law enforcement is such a dicey thing. You have cases like this, where I think a kick to the head was letting him off easy. But then you get cops like the ones who roughed up my friend without any cause at all (and brought him in for 'DUI' which kinda fell apart when he blew a ZERO at the station). Cops need to exercise judgement, plain and simple.

In this case, he knew there were cameras. He needed to apprehend the guy, take him in, and then in a couple weeks have a boot party on his face in jail. The unfortunate reality is that the guy deserved the kick, but never should have gotten it given the repercussions.

Super_Dave_D 05-14-2009 07:43 AM

on a side note.....am I the only one who found it comical when the reporter says "oh oh a kick to the head, a kick to the head"

URY914 05-14-2009 07:46 AM

Seems justified to me. Should of taz his azz.

Super_Dave_D 05-14-2009 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 4663156)
Nice kick. That would have been good from 50 yards.

no way - it would have been wide left!

KevinP73 05-14-2009 07:58 AM

From what I see the kick to head was a defensive measure to insure the officers safety. In every felony stop I've seen (even if it was only on tv) the arresting officers manage the scene by preventing the bad guy from seeing what is going on around them. They approach the bad guys from behind for a reason. If the fleeing gangster could see the officer was alone he might be more inclined to continue the fight. A scene is not under control until the bad guy is in cuffs. Just laying down doesn't mean the fight is over, it means the bad guy has taken the fight to the ground perhaps where he would prefer it to be.
That little kick to head was nothing compared to the "jumping in party" this gang banger had when he became a banger.
You can cite civil rights decisions all you want but personally I think that once you've tattooed your face up with gang signs and have chosen to victimize society as a way of life I think you've given up your rights to a fair trial. I think cops should be authorized to shoot you in head with out so much as a warning. This society has turned into a bunch of pussies who are afraid to stand up to these criminals.

Moses 05-14-2009 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinP73 (Post 4663226)
From what I see the kick to head was a defensive measure to insure the officers sasfety. In every felony stop I've seen (even if it was only on tv) the arresting officers manage the scene by preventing the bad guy from seeing what is going on around them. They approach the bad guys from behind for a reason. If the fleeing gangster could see the officer was alone he might be more inclined to continue the fight. A scene is not under control untill the bad guy is in cuffs. Just laying down doesn't mean the fight is over, it means the bad guy has taken the fight to the ground perhaps where he would prefer it to be.
That little kick to head was nothing compared to the "jumping in party" this gang banger had when he became a banger.
You can cite civil rights decisions all you want but personally I think that once you've tatoo'd your face up with gang signs and have chosen to victimize society as a way of life I think you've given up your rights to a fair trial. I think cops should be authorized to shoot you in head with out so much as a warning. This society has turned into a bunch of pussies who are afraid to stand up to these criminals.

Don't sugar coat it, Kevin. Tell us how you really feel. :D:D:D

Super_Dave_D 05-14-2009 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinP73 (Post 4663226)
From what I see the kick to head was a defensive measure to insure the officers safety. In every felony stop I've seen (even if it was only on tv) the arresting officers manage the scene by preventing the bad guy from seeing what is going on around them. They approach the bad guys from behind for a reason. If the fleeing gangster could see the officer was alone he might be more inclined to continue the fight. A scene is not under control until the bad guy is in cuffs. Just laying down doesn't mean the fight is over, it means the bad guy has taken the fight to the ground perhaps where he would prefer it to be.
That little kick to head was nothing compared to the "jumping in party" this gang banger had when he became a banger.
You can cite civil rights decisions all you want but personally I think that once you've tattooed your face up with gang signs and have chosen to victimize society as a way of life I think you've given up your rights to a fair trial. I think cops should be authorized to shoot you in head with out so much as a warning. This society has turned into a bunch of pussies who are afraid to stand up to these criminals.

Ok the kick in the head was defensive....ok I buy it. What was the second cops several batan strikes to the kidneys called? A reminder?

TerryH 05-14-2009 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Super_Dave_D (Post 4663304)
Ok the kick in the head was defensive....ok I buy it. What was the second cops several batan strikes to the kidneys called? A reminder?


Just the opposite. That was to make him forget how much his face hurt.

look 171 05-14-2009 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nota (Post 4662789)
once a-pon a time [ 1964 ] the local cop could and did shoot to kill
for driving away from them

two 16 year olds in a 58 chevy ragtop with a 348 panicked
and tryed to out run a cop
he shot both of them in the back of their heads
scum bag city officials gave the PIG a medal for that bit of hero act :eek:

sorry but your ''law'' SUCKS
I knew both kids
and no they were not criminals or dopers or gang members
just normal high school kids
who did a dumb thing
and were murdered by the man
for nothing

Would you have feel any different if they weren't shot in the back of the head and keep going and crach around a turn and there it is, your wife and your little boy in her hand and his younger sister in the Radio Flyer wagon all killed because they panicked? whey they say stop, you FREAKING stop. I do, do you? I had my fair share with butt head cops, but almost each and every time was my stupid mouth or my doing. I say we shoot the drunks too at the same time.

KevinP73 05-14-2009 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nota (Post 4662789)
once a-pon a time [ 1964 ] the local cop could and did shoot to kill
for driving away from them

two 16 year olds in a 58 chevy ragtop with a 348 panicked
and tryed to out run a cop

"paniced"? over what? a traffic ticket? Who panics over a traffic ticket? Maybe there is more to the story than you're sharing?
Quote:

he shot both of them in the back of their heads
scum bag city officials gave the PIG a medal for that bit of hero act :eek:

sorry but your ''law'' SUCKS
I knew both kids
and no they were not criminals or dopers or gang members
just normal high school kids
who did a dumb thing
and got THEMSELVES killed for thier own STUPID decision. Darwin was right.

madmmac 05-14-2009 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super_Dave_D (Post 4663304)
Ok the kick in the head was defensive....ok I buy it. What was the second cops several batan strikes to the kidneys called? A reminder?


The perp pulled his arm in from the natural reaction of getting kneed in the ribs/back and the cop wanted to control his arm. I have zero problems with this.

I don't buy the defensive blow for submission as the perp visually acknowledged the officer as he was walking to lay down, he was totally splayed, the officer had fronted him with a direct line for a head shot and multiple officers showed up in about 6-7 seconds. The officer could have simply held his fronted position for those few seconds while the others arrived.

He's lucky the kick did not do any more damage that stunning the perp....but I am sure there will be more damage listed in the lawsuit.

The cop got wrapped up in the moment and the taxpayers are really going to have to pay.


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