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Why is that cheap mustang faster than my M-3?


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466 HP and 439 ft./lbs of TQ
15" long runners for increased low-end torque
Installs under the stock hood
Made in the U.S.A.
Fits 2005-2009 4.6 3V GT Mustangs


Food for thought...when Warranty is done...I love that it fits under the stock hood...no scoops or bulges as a giveaway. Cheap at $6,000 or so...compared to P-car stuff, that is.
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466 HP and 439 ft./lbs of TQ
15" long runners for increased low-end torque
Installs under the stock hood
Made in the U.S.A.
Fits 2005-2009 4.6 3V GT Mustangs


Food for thought...when Warranty is done...I love that it fits under the stock hood...no scoops or bulges as a giveaway. Cheap at $6,000 or so...compared to P-car stuff, that is.
The answer is in your second post.

MADE in the good old U.S.A.

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I used to beat M3s with my cheap Buick.
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I used to beat M3s with my cheap Buick.
Grand National? Yeah...they were quite a ride!
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nah, it was a 455 Skylark.
not saying I could beat them all, just the ones that raced me. Always a surprise.

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"there is no substitute for cubic inches" -Stroker McGurk

Bet you miss it...at least the straight line part of it.
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It was a fun car but I get in less trouble with the 911, I drive better and not racing anyone. That car was only a high 13s car but on the street it was a shocker. I miss the money I spent on it.
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There is something cool about driving something that looks stock but is anything but. My daily driver is a boring old work truck that will spin the tires at 30 MPH.....it keeps you on your toes in the rain
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466 HP and 439 ft./lbs of TQ
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...which, unless I'm very much mistaken, still have a solid rear axle and leaf spring suspension.

I can see the attraction though.
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Its Funny, everyone (myself included) bags on new Mustangs with a solid axle, yet Motor Treand, Car and Driver( or was it R &D, I read them at the grocery store) and some other Mags have the stang with better feel on the track than the IRS Camaro.
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I 1970 ford had a test mule trans-am BOSS 302 mustang with IRS AND a 2 speed rear-end

the LEAF SPRING solid axle car was faster on the track.
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...which, unless I'm very much mistaken, still have a solid rear axle and leaf spring suspension.

I can see the attraction though.
AND pulls great G's on a skid pad...better than the independently sprung Camaro...read the C&D comparison test in their July issue. Motor trend tested the "track pack" equipped Mustang at .95 G. Dunno how much a M-3 tests out at, but I doubt it's all that much better than the old fashioned solid axle Mustang...

And golly shucks, I'm just back from the garage...wanted to be sure I wasn't seeing things earlier...looked under the ass end of my Bullitt...why, goodness sakes, those are COILS under there.
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AND pulls great G's on a skid pad...better than the independently sprung Camaro...read the C&D comparison test in their July issue. Motor trend tested the "track pack" equipped Mustang at .95 G. Dunno how much a M-3 tests out at, but I doubt it's all that much better than the old fashioned solid axle Mustang...

And golly shucks, I'm just back from the garage...wanted to be sure I wasn't seeing things earlier...looked under the ass end of my Bullitt...why, goodness sakes, those are COILS under there.
Really? I never knew they'd changed. Is that something particular to the Bullit?

I'd be happy to admit I'm wrong if need be.

Still leaf springs aren't all that bad but it does partially explain the cost difference between the M3 and a Mustang. Designed by accounting.
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The Bullitt package includes "track pack" suspension, which can be ordered on the GT...BTW, I just looked up C&D skid pad tests...could only find the figure for the '08 M3...it was .95, on michelin pilots. The Bullitt comes with BF Goodrich G Force TA's...Z speed rated.

Hey, the M-3's snob appeal has to be worth $30K alone...right?
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Mustangs have had rear coil springs since switching to the fox platform, which was in 1979.
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Mustangs have had rear coil springs since switching to the fox platform, which was in 1979.
Shows how little I know. My apologies.
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Why you want to bag on fast cars that handle well?

My friend with the supercharged integra sedan used to show the M3 guys his tail lights a lot at track days. I remember talking about it to a plastic surgeon in one of said M3's, he was bent because he was getting his ass handed to him by a freakin' glorified civic.

I am just not a Ford guy.
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Why you want to bag on fast cars that handle well?

Could, er, image Have something to do with it? (edit) Actually, the M-3 is a fantastic car. I guess I just chose that one because with an edelbrock supercharger, a Mustang could be very much it's equal...with $$$ left over for another car.

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