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Time to get back into the market?

I pulled out earlier and am earning money market returns. Did not loose more but also did not capture the rally the last several months.

Is it time to jump back into the market? Why or why not?
Domestic Stocks? Bonds? Foreign Stocks? RE? Mutual funds? Index funds?
Are the fundementals really there to support the recent market rally?

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My crystal ball says stay out. We're in for a correction before the year is out. Unemployment numbers are looking worse, consumer confidence is heading even further south. My Taro cards support this prediction.
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Yep. I think we're in for a nasty crash in the next month or two. DOW is way, way too high given how lousy the underlying numbers are (unemployment in particular). I'm even considering a couple of short positions similar to last year. Probably won't yield as well, but I definitely think we're going to see more declines.

The real test will be 4Q/2009. Those numbers are going to be horrendous - just how horrendous will tell the story of whether there's going to be any sort of real "recovery" in 2010 or not.
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Stay out for now.......The sun is just setting on the Obama honeymoon!!!!!!!
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IF you go in do it when there is weakness in the market. And go with the dividend payers.
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you are about 6 months late for the real bottom, but I would buy stocks selectively now - use ValueLine to find out which ones

you already have 6 months of cash stashed & mutual funds right????

right???
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Stocks went up as Obama's 'health care" went down. "Cap & Trade" is till a threat, albeit diminishing. But still, as mentioned above, unemployment numbers are expected to climb.

Volatile times in the US.
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you are about 6 months late for the real bottom, but I would buy stocks selectively now - use ValueLine to find out which ones

you already have 6 months of cash stashed & mutual funds right????

right???
I've seen nothing to suggest we have hit the 'real bottom' yet. I think that's still coming.
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This SM wants ot go up.

The pendlum swung way way over in Sept to March...it is now returning to equilbrium and fair value. Look for the SM to return to the pre crash numbers adjusted for the econ.

Back in April I looked at the charts of the S&P and said 750 to 945...well we have finally broken through that 945...resistance level next stop 1000.

Recently a number of you fine investment experts claimed the Market was going to crash and burn...Tabby said 870 was support and guess what 878 was the low on the S&P. NOw it is roughly 970. There is going to be some retracement here, to back and fill. I would think support is around 920 now, the markets hung there for quiet some time.

You also have to view that the SM is the only game in town to make a buck. Some of the so called investment analysists think the SM is going back to the old highs..
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I've seen nothing to suggest we have hit the 'real bottom' yet. I think that's still coming.
- maybe

I'd say likely not for stocks; likely so for jobs (i.e unemployment will get worse).

But my goal is to never pick the exact bottom - I just like to buy things when they are on sale. If there is a better sale in 6 months, no biggie. That's the way I buy stocks....
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Some issues on which you'd want to to have an opinion, in making the decision:
- At what point are we, in the economic cycle.
- In past economic cycles, how did stock market behave from this point in the cycle.
- Do you believe historical economic or market patterns will, or won't, repeat in current cycle.
- Given market's current valuation what is potential upside and downside.
- What alternatives to market do investors have, that is more attractive and sufficiently liquid.
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As soon as the next major corporation asked for 500 billion bailout and the gov't has to say no, watch the market take a serious header.... THEN get back in. It's a house of cards, be patient. The fundamentals say it's iminent.
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As soon as the next major corporation asked for 500 billion bailout and the gov't has to say no, watch the market take a serious header.... THEN get back in. It's a house of cards, be patient. The fundamentals say it's iminent.
That'd be CIT.
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Sorry since March this SM has climbed a wall of worry everyday..and still it climbs higher.

I am glad there are so many nay sayers, cause that means that there are still some fools left to jump in the SM the day beofre it crashes and burns.

There still are tons of cash sitting on the sidelines waiting for the right moment to invest. Unfortunately the day those funds get invested the bang for the buck will have passed.

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