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			I'm not 100% on that strain of yeast but as a general rule, 74 is about the upper limit for most ale strains before you get fruity ester flavors.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
				
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			And you don't want to go to low either, or you'll get less esters than you might want. Ask me how I know...
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			you should check the profile for saison strains.  its pretty amazing how warm they can ferment cleanly.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Ordered a dual 5 gallon keg setup today.  I'll probably get this batch out of the bucket on Monday or Tuesday of next week when it arrives.  I wanted to do it tomorrow, but the local homebrew shop didn't really have what I was looking for.  Anyway, I can't wait to try it with a Tilburg's to see if I'm even close.  Either way, I think I have a recipe I can work with and tweak through football season.   
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			FYI, the food grade buckets are oxygen permeable.  if you ferment in them, beyond the aerobic stage (which is over very quickly, meaning about the time you see CO2 bubbling from the air lock) you are causing problems with your beer.  you are much better off using a 6 or 6.5 gallon glass carboy.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I have a 6 gallon carboy.  I just haven't figured out how to handle it without potentially breaking it and bleeding out on the kitchen floor yet, so I figured I'd leave it in the bucket for 3 weeks  
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			just lift the carboy.  they have harnesses for them as well, and they work great. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			be careful with the carboy handle.  i've had them rip a couple of carboy necks right off.  no joke.  it was not fun.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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only for empty carboys!! I've actually removed my carboy handle because of this.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			They used to make carboy "slings" which surrounded the carboy
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			the slings work very nicely.  try morebeer.com to find them.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			put mine in a brew bucket. but a sling would be better.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I read on one of the forums that some people use the plastic milk or egg crates from a grocery store for handling carboys.  The guy in the dairy section at the Winn Dixie looked at me like I was high when I asked him if I could buy a couple of them.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			My neighbor and I brewed a Porter and a 9.5% alcohol "Pilsner" this summer, so far. We'll be brewing a wheat beer before fall arrives.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			i just kegged the beer i made two(?) sundays ago.  damn, it is good.  rather bitter, but just what i wanted. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			Okay, I've just pulled my first pint after kegging and force carbonating it according to an instructional video on youtube.  It's really not bad.  Way better than my first attempt.  It has a stronger chocolate flavor than I expected.  It also has that creamy canned draft Belhaven/Guiness/Boddingtons quality, which I didn't expect at all.  Is this from the Carapils?   It's not bitter or hoppy at all, which is what I wanted.  It's nowhere near a Tilburg's, but it's something I can work with. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
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			carapils will tend to give the beer more body and fuller mouthfeel.  strong work.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 I also bought a really cool little butane fired burner to try. I move up from a 16qt to 20qt pot and figured this would help get the water up to temp a little better than my cooktop stove. This is a really neat little setup for the partial grain setups or smaller (5 gallons or less) kettles.  
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			my son brewing with me this last monday: 
		
	
		
	
			
			
				
					 
		
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