My 2002 Tacoma is having it's frame replaced

[Jims5543]

Originally Posted by cwiert

90,500 miles on the truck.

I just turned 90K miles on my 2006 Tacoma Xtra Cab 4X4 with a 4 cyl. the only thing ever replaced on this truck was a new clutch, brake pads, front rotors (guy driving it does not know how to drive) and tires.

It is a fleet truck and we use it heavily, it gets 23MPG like clockwork.

I love my Tacoma and FJ, both have high miles for their age (60K on the 2007 FJ) and neither give me a single problem.

Good luck with your Taco your good to go now for another 200K miles.

[jyl]

Nice pics. If that were my truck I'd replace or repaint or powder coat a few of the rusty things that they didn't replace (shocks, exhaust, etc) just to get that all-new truck look. You are so close already.

[Heel n Toe]

Originally Posted by jyl

Nice pics. If that were my truck I'd replace or repaint or powder coat a few of the rusty things that they didn't replace (shocks, exhaust, etc) just to get that all-new truck look. You are so close already.

Or just spray them with that clear stuff that converts rust to that blackish whatever... primer? Primable surface?

I don't remember what it's called, but I've got some of it.

[cwiert]

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe

If you haven't done so already, spend a decent amount of time underneath and in the wheelwells making sure the routing and reinstallation of all wiring, brake lines, hoses, etc. are done intelligently so they aren't crimped even a little and don't chafe against each other or the frame or body.

good tip. thanks.

[cwiert]

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe

Or just spray them with that clear stuff that converts rust to that blackish whatever... primer? Primable surface?

I don't remember what it's called, but I've got some of it.

never heard of it. if you find out what it's called, let me know. i'm all about making things look better with minimal amount of, time, effort and money. after-all, i have a 1 and a 2.5 yr old.

[Heel n Toe]

I'm pretty sure this is what I have (probably got it at Autozone or Advance Auto)...



The way I remember the directions, it tells you to hit the rusty areas with a wire brush briefly to knock off the high spots, then blow or wipe off the area to remove the excess, then spray on. It goes on clear and starts to turn the rust black fairly quickly.

Wait a certain amount of time (24 hrs., I think) then paint. Or not.

It is available in a bottle so you can brush it on, too.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015DMJZA/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B001QGKFPM&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0H4BHH5873X8NA69SVW4

Depending on how much you need to do, that might be better... otherwise you might get high under there with all the overspray and fumes.

[m21sniper]

That's basically like gun bluing in a can i think. It does work, my cousin has used it in the past.

[Heel n Toe]

Yeah, but it ain't as purty as gun bluing.

YouTube - Metal RustCon 71709

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

They build untold 10s of thousands of vehicles with rusting out frames and they get a kudos?

LOL...wow.

I would never buy any truck that was not made in the USA.

The frames were provided by Dana and made.........in America. They were not built to Toyota specs, that's where this entire issue came from.

There's MANY American cars that have systemic issues that aren't ever admitted to or repaired by the makers. Toyota really stepped up by replacing entire trucks in some cases, or fixing the problem. I'd love to get all new bushings, mounts, etc for free.

My '91 Land Cruiser has 193k. Records since new. The two most expensive repairs were a fuel pump at 150k and a water pump yesterday.

[emcon5]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

They build untold 10s of thousands of vehicles with rusting out frames and they get a kudos?

LOL...wow.

I would never buy any truck that was not made in the USA.

Tacomas are made in the USA, about 5 miles from here.

[kycarguy 935]

I bought a new Toyota 4x4 SR5 in 1985 and within about 6 months the chrome was peeling off the rear bumper...and that was in Southern California. They replaced the whole rear bumper with no issue.

I think they are great trucks and thought they would of had the whole rust issue fixed by now.

I have 5 American full size trucks with no issues of frame rust.

[NICKG]

so how much snow and winter salt are in Kentucky these days?

[kaisen]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

The frames were provided by Dana and ........ were not built to Toyota specs, that's where this entire issue came from.

Proof please

[NICKG]

Originally Posted by kaisen

Proof please

well as a person who works for a company that does work for Toyota, I can tell you that they (toyota) design and specify what the job is done with, however it is up to us to procure said items and make the component to that spec....Dana blew it, they cheaped out on inferior metal(corrosion protection wise) OR their sub blew it.....whatever you think, THAT is what happened.
We had a similar experience with Toyota recently with the TRD exhausts we make, the tip was specified as a certain material, it turned out that the material we used was below par and it "browned " with heat....not something a polkished stainless tip should do. end result? we recalled and replaced the effected systems (at GREAT expense) and had to cover the actual wararnty costs for replacement systems to be installed on the kits in the field....

[kycarguy 935]

Originally Posted by NICKG

so how much snow and winter salt are in Kentucky these days?

We get some snow and a few salt days. The snow isn't too bad around here like the people further north get.

[berettafan]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

So much for that superior Toyota build quality.

go drive a tacoma of any year (had an '01 myself).

there is NO BETTER SMALL TRUCK ON THE PLANET. none that even compare. none.

ditto earlier style Tundras (just change 'small' to 'not quite full size').

[flatbutt]

I just turned 50K on my '06 Taco and while there is some rust on the frame it is not an issue in any way.

[Tim Hancock]

Long term, I would trust a Toyota truck any day over anything from the big three. That said, if I needed a FULL SIZE truck for work every day to beat the hell out of in contruction type work, I would probably buy a Chevy or Ford and just fix anything that breaks. I can't imagine getting in a high dollar new Toyota Tundra with greasy or muddy clothes and throwing busted up concrete into the bed. Chevy and Ford build a pretty decent full size truck but IMO, Toyota has them beat in the smaller trucks when it comes to minimal maintenance required and long term reliability.

[aigel]

Originally Posted by NICKG

well as a person who works for a company that does work for Toyota, I can tell you that they (toyota) design and specify what the job is done with, however it is up to us to procure said items and make the component to that spec....Dana blew it, they cheaped out on inferior metal(corrosion protection wise) OR their sub blew it.....whatever you think, THAT is what happened..

There is incoming QA that should catch this stuff. Toyota blew it too.

George

[aigel]

I would be in the market for a newer Toyota Tacoma, if it had not become a full size truck that's not available with 4cyl in a 4x4. The way they went, I might as well keep driving my old beater full size. No gas savings there ...

George