The "no knives in school" rule is understandable in this day and age.

The mandatory, no-discretion, severe punishment school policy is a dumb idea.

The teacher and even the principal are probably pretty trapped - the school district has this rule, they have to follow it - IMO the fault lies up at the district level.

The comment about "should be put in prison for life – no exception" is as dumb as the school's policy.

you and i and every other man on this forum would fight a hijacker to the death armed or not if we knew the plane was going to be used as a giant bomb.

Dumb is what got it to this point. Putting them in prison is what would point things back toward reasonable. Nothing short of life will make any difference.

Wow. Your attitude is representative of just about everything that has gone wrong in this country with regards to this issue. I hereby pronounce you "PPOT Hand-Wringing Ninny of the Year".

Like many on this thread, one would have been hard-pressed to find a boy at my school who didn't bring a knife to school. Or anywhere else he went. It is all a part of being a boy, one that will eventually grow into a man, rather than some frightened hand-wringing ninny.

Please don't poison other childrens' childhoods with your over the top hoplophobia. Fukk up your own kid and leave the rest of ours alone.

A Fox in .410???? Ejectors!! Vent rib!! Prolly single trigger too! If you still had it you could buy a new car with the proceeds from the sale,. Unless of course it was a model B. Even then it would still be worth a lot of money.

Spot on brother spot on.

Zero Tolerance= zero common sense. Adopting these policies takes away any discretion and ability to look at these incidents on a case-by-case basis, which is a genuine shame. Nobody wants the responsibility for making a "judgement call" and simply wants to rely on a policy where they don't have to provide any input or judgement other than "guilty."

Carried a knife for many years to school. still carry daily. During the first week of deer season, just about every guy I knew in HS had a rifle locked in his trunk on school grounds.

Number of people shot=0.

It was a mdl B. but still nice at the time.

It was stolen along with my fathers 20ga Sterlingworth, my uncles Winchester and all my other shotguns 10 years ago.

I am shotgunless! But I still have all my pocket knives - except the ones I gave to the boys years ago - when they were 8 or 9.

Alright heres how I a very recent Eagle Scout view this whole mess....

Ya as a scout he is probably no harm with that knife and meant no harm with it. However 0 tolerance means 0 tolerance and he should have been aware of the rules... Now that punishment for a first time offender is way way way over the top...


Now the Eagle scout with it in his car... I carry a Leatherman with me everywhere... Except school... I know the rules say not on campus. Last I checked my car in the parking lot is on campus. Again ignorance of the law is no excuse...

nobody should be shotgunless. I see model B's all the time and they bring good money just not A.H Fox money. I just sold a sterlingworth in 12, or I would offer it to you. FFL to FFL of course.

I don't see a leatherman as a weapon. I mean what would you do plier somebody to death? Ouch death by screw driver ......oh my.

My leatherman has a razor sharp blade in it...

What about stainless steel scissors?

How is this day and age any different than any other day and age?

True enough, but knives would make it a hell of a lot easier.

Totally agree but they want to mandate responsibility, which is impossible.

Its time we stand our ground and stop letting these liberals take our world over. Problem is that they tend to replicate faster than we do and we are getting out numbered.

NO ITS NOT understandable. Responsibility is understandable.

More concern today about violence in schools. Though I have not looked to see if the rate of incidents is actually any higher than 20 years ago.

Also less good "reason" for kids to carry a knife. We're an urban society, kids aren't whittling logs or cutting rope or cleaning trout with their pocket knives anymore. Cans have pull tabs and bottles have twist-offs. A kid wearing a tactical folder on his belt in class is not likely doing so for any reason other than to display a weapon.

Times change. Once upon a time, a high school kid bringing a rifle to school might have been leaving for a deer hunt after class. Today, he's probably not.

Now, personally, I think traditional pocket knives (Swiss Army, Boy Scout, etc) should be treated differently from bigger knives. That would work fine in my kids' school, with a 14-1 teacher-student ratio and very few disciplinary issues. But I can see that, at some inner-city school where they've been forced to put metal detectors at the doors, they might say otherwise.

A few years ago I was at one of my 4 sons 3rd grade class on Halloween.

They had 6- 8 pumpkins out to carve. I pulled out my pocket knife (a Henry James) The other parents gave me the stink eye! The teacher comes over and tells me to put it back in my pocket. Two minutes later a dad broke one of the plastic carving "tools" when it snapped it gave him a pretty deep scrape on the underside of his wrist.

The teacher asked me to finish the openings of the pumpkins under the table in my lap with my knife!


The pussification of this country is sickening.

all 4WD trucks should come with a mandatory knife and machete, chainsaw, cooler, and gunrack, just in case.