I work with cheap *****, rant

[s_morrison57]

I can't believe some of the people I work with. Work is in a third world country and these guys can't even give the cook an X-mas bounus that would amount to about $0.03 per meal, I give and I get pissed at these cheap Pri@@'s who think that " we are all employee's" that's what one SOB said to me today when I tried to guilt trip him about topping these basic workers, the cooks make about $500 a month for 14/7 work weeks, I give back but these DH's think its OK to not do it, theres 12 of them so where not talking a lot of money each, but that cash, 100 each, would go a lone way in this country, I can't stand these guys, for this and other reasons.
they just don't get it. If I could keep my job after ***** slapping these POS's I'd do it now.
Rant over

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Sorry to hear that.

However, business owners go into business to make themselves money - not to make other people money. I don't agree with the miserly, scrooge-like attitude, but I can certainly see where it comes from and it's logical and makes sense.

If you want to make real money, go into business for yourself. So long as you work for someone else at their business, you are a nobody and will never get rich.

[NineOhOne]

Originally Posted by s_morrison57

Work is in a third world country...

Miami?

[Laneco]

I work for a very large corporation and frequently travel. My travel expenses are reimbursed. The majority of our business has something to do with food or service type work. We are VERY good at what we do e.g. Beijing Olympics? We were the ones who did all the food.

About a year ago, the travel policy was revised. The new revision would only allow 15% for gratuities. This of all the points in the 60 page travel policy was the one that caused the ruckus. We are essentially a service based industry and good service is rewarded at 20% (for food) and sometimes even a bit more for a truly exceptional experience. This policy was well intentioned (and frankly I suppor it) to keep costs down for the company. At least they still allowed tipping at all (meaning that if you tipped for a company meal, you would get reimbursed). The thing is, when we travel, we try to stay and eat at our facilities. So it's effectively our own people who are getting shorted tips!

Turns out that most of the field people who travel have chosen a similar path. We tip more than 15% where applicable and pay the difference out of pocket.

On a day to day basis, there may not be enough money to pay good people everything that they deserve. But thoughtful notes (including tips - minor bonuses, a nice thank you note, etc) go a very long way toward job satisfaction and retaining good people. No matter where they are, and yes, that includes 3rd world countries.

You see the big picture. You will never be guilty of stepping over dollars to pick up dimes. You understand that good people are worth the extra measures. The other guys? They don't get it and they are doomed to NEVER getting it...

angela

[BeyGon]

The difference between a canoe and a canuck, a canoe tips.

[TechnoViking]

Originally Posted by Laneco

On a day to day basis, there may not be enough money to pay good people everything that they deserve. But thoughtful notes (including tips - minor bonuses, a nice thank you note, etc) go a very long way toward job satisfaction and retaining good people. No matter where they are, and yes, that includes 3rd world countries.

Well said.

[jyl]

When did the usual food tip go from 15% to 20%? I must have missed it. Have I been leaving a trail of disappointed waitstaff for years?

[rattlsnak]

our company refuses to reimburse us for tips for transportation, like cabs, handlers, etc. it sux and we always give them a few dollars, but its not as much is due or as much as we would like to give. And before you say, pay out of your own pocket, that would mean @ $200 a week, so no, not going to happen.

[s_morrison57]

Thanks Angela, the voice of reason - again. BeyGon, your a turd, I give away 2K a month, Yank bucks, top it or flush your head down the toilet

[BeyGon]

bite me canuck

[Jeff Alton]

Originally Posted by BeyGon

The difference between a canoe and a canuck, a canoe tips.

WTF? You know this for fact, or are you just being an ASS?

I happen to tip above 20% on average, same as the group of friends I dine out with... oh and gave over 10K to charity this year but I guess that doesn't count.

Merry Christmas.

[BeyGon]

I don't make um up, bartenders tell me these things.

[Jeff Alton]

Originally Posted by turbocarrera

umm.. lighten up.. it was kinda funny

Maybe, but I just don't like the generalization....... I don't paint any group all with the same brush, which for most groups is a good thing....

But now that we know the source was some bartenders, I feel much better...

Cheers

[fintstone]

I can't belive you folks consider yourself generous when you leave tips that you expect your company to reimburse you for. It is easy to be generous with someone else's money. Just ask Nancy Pelosi...

[BeyGon]

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton

Maybe, but I just don't like the generalization....... I don't paint any group all with the same brush, which for most groups is a good thing....

But now that we know the source was some bartenders, I feel much better...

Cheers

I guess bartenders would know.

[Rick Lee]

My wife works for a restaurant chain and gets a $1500 card every year for using at their restaurants. They're required to tip 20% when using that card.

[Jeff Alton]

Originally Posted by BeyGon

I guess bartenders would know.

Umm, I guess so?????

THAT was a joke about stereotyping...............

It must be fact if you heard it second hand, or are you a bartender too? I guess it must be true, no wait it can't be..... as I used to own a restaurant on Granville Island here in Vancouver I am pretty sure it is not.

Too bad you chose to judge based on a stereotype (though not sure if it widespread).....

Merry Christmas

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by jyl

When did the usual food tip go from 15% to 20%? I must have missed it. Have I been leaving a trail of disappointed waitstaff for years?

15% doesn't anger them...20% makes sure you get good service if you're a regular.

[jyl]

Oh, okay, going back to 15% then :-)

A couple of special places got 20% before from me and will still do, but I'm not going to routinely tip 15%. Average service levels have not improved by 1/3.

Quote de jyl

When did the usual food tip go from 15% to 20%? I must have missed it. Have I been leaving a trail of disappointed waitstaff for years?

15% doesn't anger them...20% makes sure you get good service if you're a regular.

[NineOhOne]

Originally Posted by BeyGon

I don't make um up, bartenders tell me these things.

The French Canadians who winter here in SoFLA notoriously DO NOT TIP. Most restaurants in "their" areas add the tip in with the bill.