V-6 engines begin long fade into history

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Ronbo

Not always. The V6 in my old Alfa Romeo GTV6 (non-turbo) sounded pretty darn good at higher revs.

Originally Posted by Dottore

You have clearly never heard the music of a 4-pot Alfa Guilia.

You have no idea what you are missing.

Compared to an 8??? I've never heard a six that can compete with the music of a headered- and high performance exhausted V-8 (or larger).

I've never heard a 4 cylinder that didn't sound like something you'd find on the back of a landscaping truck.

Please feel free to link to clips of these glorius sounding 4 bangers.

Clip to the best sounding V-8 on earth is in my signature line.

Originally Posted by jyl

Since you can find great-sounding examples with every engine configuration from I-4 to V-12, I conclude the "music" is due as much to exhaust system as to number and layout of cylinders.

I challenge that assertion.

Let's hear these great sounding 4's and 6's. I disupute that they exist.

Originally Posted by svandamme

i'll take the sound of flat-6 with a hot MFI setup over any V8-rumble..

While i am trying not to double over in laughter, i will simply ask for a sound clip to back your point. I suspect though, that you are just an EXTREME oddball to think what you just typed.

Seriously, listen to the V-8 in my signature line. No six on earth that i've ever heard can come close to that note. I had a Buick 231 V6 turbo running 18psi of boost. It sounded great at idle, but when nailed, it could not even compete with the note of any V-8 with performance exhaust. Not IMO. I personally think Porsche flat sixes sound very ordinary.

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Compared to an 8??? I've never heard a six that can compete with the music of a headered- and high performance exhausted V-8 (or larger).

I've never heard a 4 cylinder that didn't sound like something you'd find on the back of a landscaping truck.

Please feel free to link to clips of these glorius sounding 4 bangers.

Clip to the best sounding V-8 on earth is in my signature line.


I challenge that assertion.

Let's hear these great sounding 4's and 6's. I disupute that they exist.


While i am trying not to double over in laughter, i will simply ask for a sound clip to back your point. I suspect though, that you are just an EXTREME oddball to think what you just typed.

Seriously, listen to the V-8 in my signature line. No six on earth that i've ever heard can come close to that note. I had a Buick 231 V6 turbo running 18psi of boost. It sounded great at idle, but when nailed, it could not even compete with the note of any V-8 with performance exhaust. Not IMO. I personally think Porsche flat sixes sound very ordinary.

Just watched your vid...all I can say if you ever get the chance to listen to three deuces suck air at 1400 CFM in an old goat...do it!

[svandamme]

http://www.supertecperformance.com/bord.mp3

[pwd72s]

You forget that I've been there, done that?

[svandamme]

i haven't, but snipe wanted sound, so i posted sound.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

Just watched your vid...all I can say if you ever get the chance to listen to three deuces suck air at 1400 CFM in an old goat...do it!

Yep, the old tri power GTO's sounded great!!!

I LOVE the sound of a tunnel rammed dual quad V-8 too.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by svandamme

i haven't, but snipe wanted sound, so i posted sound.

I will say that your link sounds WAY better than any 4 i've ever heard, but not as good as my old Buick's 231 V-6 turbo.

This is clearly very subjective.

The best sounding V-6's i've ever heard were the Bridgeport 2.8liter 2 stroke turbo outboard motors on my dad's old 31 foot racing boat.

[pwd72s]

Here's what Ford has on tap for 2011...on a dyno. Note the rev counter.
Video: 2011 Ford Mustang 5.0 V8 on the Dyno

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

I will say that your link sounds WAY better than any 4 i've ever heard, but not as good as my old Buick's 231 V-6 turbo.

This is clearly very subjective.

The best sounding V-6's i've ever heard were the Bridgeport 2.8liter 2 stroke turbo outboard motors on my dad's old 31 foot racing boat.

never said i liked 4's... just don't think a V-8 is all that compared to F6 with mfi.... or what 917's brought along... I just find V 8'es loud and rumbling... I like the angry sound MFI does when going in to the higher revs...
Same thing when talking about bikes, don't like Harley sound, do like Ducatti sound.

And i prefer the sound of high strung NA, over turbo or supercharger sounds..


2 stroke is not what we are talking about here... car engines generally are 4 stroke...
If we start discussing 2 stroke, i might just as well add turbines in the mix.. like engine sounds that came out of an F-14 when they spools up for a cat launch...

[m21sniper]

Well if i can't include 2 strokes the best sounding V-6 i've ever heard (at least in person) was my racing exhaust equipped 231 Buick V-6 SFI turbo.

As my sister once remarked while standing behind it at idle, "It sounds like daddies cigarette boat" (the one with the 2 stroke bridgeports).

[gt350mike]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

Here's what Ford has on tap for 2011...on a dyno. Note the rev counter.
Video: 2011 Ford Mustang 5.0 V8 on the Dyno

6900 for a factory V-8 is quite a few RPMs......How does that compare to other late model factory V-8s???

[svandamme]

might just be they over rev em during testing, then set the red line lower for production cars.
for one thing, the safety margin, for another thing, to make sure they last long enough for warranty to run out.

[dd74]

Originally Posted by gt350mike

6900 for a factory V-8 is quite a few RPMs......How does that compare to other late model factory V-8s???

I don't think it really will compare. At least to other American V8s. The Coyote is a very nice engine. Ford definitely is in competition with BMW and MB on this front.

[dd74]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

The only exception is Italy, where everything sounds like sex.

A modified two-stroke scooter in Florence definitely sounds like sex -- between feral cats.

[dd74]

Originally Posted by svandamme

i'll take the sound of flat-6 with a hot MFI setup over any V8-rumble..

True. I have Webers on my 2.7, and the induction noise is simply intoxicating. No new V8 can compare to it. They're just all exhaust noise IMO.

[KarlCarrera]

Alfa's, when wound up, sound great. (and I have wound them up). No, I don't have sound bite's, probably won't bother looking, I know what I heard. The 'sound' building about 5500 and up is very nice.

Hadn't heard the Alfa turbo V6 before. I think it sounds great. Yes the Italians seem to have found some magic. 4,6,8, and 12.

It is subjective, (very) Snipe's V8 does sound great, as well as the goat, and a number of other properly tuned V8's.

Right now I'm thinking about the 'song' I want from the 3.2 As much as I love original, there are some exhaust systems I've heard on this board that I may need to explore.

Karl
88 Targa

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by gt350mike

6900 for a factory V-8 is quite a few RPMs......How does that compare to other late model factory V-8s???

Redline on the 4.6 modular Bullitt engine is 6,500. 500 more than the GT's...The 5.0 will have a 7K redline. Overhead cams work pretty much the same in a V-8 as they do in flat 6's...the 5.0 will be 4 valves per cylinder...Bullit has only 3, 2 intake, one large exhaust.

Ford publicity dept. says they are aiming for M3 performance envlope with the 2011 GT...

[rammstein]

Some 4-bangers I wouldn't kick out of bed:

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Yep, the old tri power GTO's sounded great!!!

I LOVE the sound of a tunnel rammed dual quad V-8 too.

My buddy's 455 Cutlass has the giant scoops, sounds like it would suck a seagull in there when he is on it.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by KarlCarrera

It is subjective, (very) Snipe's V8 does sound great, as well as the goat, and a number of other properly tuned V8's.

Thanks Karl!