Mark McGuire finally comes clean

[Rot 911]

Admits today that he used steroids including the season where he broke the home run record.

[gr8fl4porsche]

Was there any doubt?

[m21sniper]

He and Sosa should be stripped of their records, have all their achievements(ALL of them) expunged from the baseball history books, and be forever labeled as CHEATS.

Bonds too, but he deserves to be in prison on top of it.

[Rot 911]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

He and Sosa should be stripped of their records, have all their achievements(ALL of them) expunged from the baseball history books, and be forever labeled as CHEATS.

Bonds too, but he deserves to be in prison on top of it.

Can't disagree with any of that.

[azasadny]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

He and Sosa should be stripped of their records, have all their achievements(ALL of them) expunged from the baseball history books, and be forever labeled as CHEATS.

Bonds too, but he deserves to be in prison on top of it.

I agree 100%

[herr_oberst]

Looks like somebody misses the limelight.

[Moses]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Looks like somebody misses the limelight.

Don't think so. Mark was a neighbor of mine for several years. He's a genuinely shy man. My guess is that he's terribly ashamed of himself.

[widgeon13]

Originally Posted by Moses

Don't think so. Mark was a neighbor of mine for several years. He's a genuinely shy man. My guess is that he's terribly ashamed of himself.

Yeah, I'll bet he blushing all the way to the bank.

[sewell94]

I was/am a huge Mark McGwire fan. He was hitting home runs way before he used the roids. He hit 49 his rookie year, and was a twig compared to when he retired.

Do i think taking steroids is right, No.

Did the 'roids help him? Sure.

Could he have hit them w/o the roids? More than likely.

Did they extend his career? Of course.

Was he the only one taking them? NO. Many players who were good/great during the roid era were good before they took them. McGwire, Bonds, Clemens and many more were all stars before they bulk'd up. Yes, Alot of players became stars because of them.

Did him taking them help baseball? WITHOUT A DOUBT. The summer of 1998 was magical, and helped save baseball. Baseball was in the toilet after the strike years. Everywhere you went people were talking about the HR chase. Even Cnn had a HR tracker in the corner of their broadcast. That summer had that magical feel that you see in old movies about baseball.

He should be judged as a player of his era, yes the Steroid Era. He was one of the best during his era and deserves to be in the Hall.

[Superman]

You mean......you're telling me that......that.......he used STEROIDS?

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by sewell94

Did him taking them help baseball? WITHOUT A DOUBT. The summer of 1998 was magical, and helped save baseball. Baseball was in the toilet after the strike years. Everywhere you went people were talking about the HR chase. Even Cnn had a HR tracker in the corner of their broadcast. That summer had that magical feel that you see in old movies about baseball.

That's great. And now we know it was all accomplished by cheating. Kinda like finding out the Apollo moon landing was faked.

Joe Jackson played his heart out. But cheated. And he was banned. Rightfully so. "The Game" should be about more than records and winning. I think fondly of guys like Gwynn and Ripkin. They were baseball players. McGuire, Bonds, etc are "stars" and cheaters. Not baseball players. They stopped being one the minute they jabbed the needle in their ass.

[widgeon13]

Of course this has nothing to do with setting an example for the youth of today, no. It's all me, me, me.

[Moses]

Originally Posted by nostatic

That's great. And now we know it was all accomplished by cheating. Kinda like finding out the Apollo moon landing was faked.

Joe Jackson played his heart out. But cheated. And he was banned. Rightfully so. "The Game" should be about more than records and winning. I think fondly of guys like Gwynn and Ripkin. They were baseball players. McGuire, Bonds, etc are "stars" and cheaters. Not baseball players. They stopped being one the minute they jabbed the needle in their ass.

Exactly.

Anyone who thinks Bonds, McGuire or Sosa could cave touched those records without steroids does not understand steroids... AT ALL.

Here are the legitimate all time and single season home run champs;

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Moses

Don't think so. Mark was a neighbor of mine for several years. He's a genuinely shy man. My guess is that he's terribly ashamed of himself.

As he should be.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by sewell94

I was/am a huge Mark McGwire fan. He was hitting home runs way before he used the roids. He hit 49 his rookie year, and was a twig compared to when he retired.

Do i think taking steroids is right, No.

Did the 'roids help him? Sure.

Could he have hit them w/o the roids? More than likely.

Did they extend his career? Of course.

Was he the only one taking them? NO. Many players who were good/great during the roid era were good before they took them. McGwire, Bonds, Clemens and many more were all stars before they bulk'd up. Yes, Alot of players became stars because of them.

Did him taking them help baseball? WITHOUT A DOUBT. The summer of 1998 was magical, and helped save baseball. Baseball was in the toilet after the strike years. Everywhere you went people were talking about the HR chase. Even Cnn had a HR tracker in the corner of their broadcast. That summer had that magical feel that you see in old movies about baseball.

He should be judged as a player of his era, yes the Steroid Era. He was one of the best during his era and deserves to be in the Hall.

Whatever sort of drugs you are on, i demand that you share them with the rest of us.

[UconnTim97]

Not surprised at all by this announcement.

It looks like the steroids hurt his career as much as it helped him hit record HRs. He could have been in the Hall of Fame easily if he stayed clean.

[sewell94]

What drugs am i on,

i just stated some things most people with half a brain could have recognized.
He hit 33 homeruns by the allstar break when he was a rookie, no roids. Its not like he went from hitting 12 hrs a year to 70.

What you dont agree with me that the roids helped him???

[m21sniper]

He would have never come close to touching any of those records without the roids. Steroids and the cheaters that employed them did not help baseball. Do not lose sight of long term implications over what you percieve to be short term "gains."

He is a disgrace to himself, his teams, his profession, and his family. He belongs in jail IMO.

[Looking_for_911]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

He would have never come close to touching any of those records without the roids. Steroids and the cheaters that employed them did not help baseball. Do not lose sight of long term implications over what you percieve to be short term "gains."

He is a disgrace to himself, his teams, his profession, and his family. He belongs in jail IMO.

A bunch of people feel this way about Pete Rose... and, if it's good enough for Petey, it's good enough for Markie and every other cheat on the block!

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by sewell94

What drugs am i on

Not sure what it's called, but it makes you ask yourself questions and then answer them instead of just saying what you want to say in fewer words. A lot of politicians take this drug too.