Mark McGuire finally comes clean

[nostatic]

Pete Rose was one of my baseball idols when I was a kid playing little league. He screwed up. And shouldn't be in the hall. Nor should any of the 'roid kids. "The Game" is supposed to be about more than that. But maybe it is right that the "national pastime" is rampant with people who are looking for the easy way to get ahead...

[legion]

Originally Posted by gr8fl4porsche

Was there any doubt?

Not among creatures with a sum of at least two brain cells.

Originally Posted by Moses

Don't think so. Mark was a neighbor of mine for several years. He's a genuinely shy man. My guess is that he's terribly ashamed of himself.

That's my sense. He went to great lengths to hide his use from his family and friends. That said, he should have actually the word "ashamed" in his apology.

Originally Posted by UconnTim97

Not surprised at all by this announcement.

It looks like the steroids hurt his career as much as it helped him hit record HRs. He could have been in the Hall of Fame easily if he stayed clean.

Yep. And I think that is the other part of the reason why he is sorry now.

[Mr_Wizard]

Really??? That's like scientists having a press conference to announce that bears do indeed **** in the woods. What a douche.

[Looking_for_911]

Originally Posted by nostatic

Pete Rose was one of my baseball idols when I was a kid playing little league. He screwed up. And shouldn't be in the hall. Nor should any of the 'roid kids. "The Game" is supposed to be about more than that. But maybe it is right that the "national pastime" is rampant with people who are looking for the easy way to get ahead...

I understand your take on the subject of Pete, and in some respects I agree, but in light of how many others out there are still cheating to get ahead I think if they're not gonna be thrown out then Pete deserves the Hall. It stopped being a game eons ago.
In short, throw out all the bums.

[Highlander179]

Since hes now the hitting coach for the Cards, Im guessing they asked him to clear the air now, before the season, so its not a distraction during the season.

[jyl]

I'm in the group thinking he should be stripped of his records. Sad but necessary. Otherwise there is no punishment, no disincentive, no fairness for the kids or men who don't cheat. Same with doping bicycle riders, cheating F1 drivers, drugged horses.

[rick-l]

Originally Posted by Highlander179

Since hes now the hitting coach for the Cards, Im guessing they asked him to clear the air now, before the season, so its not a distraction during the season.

His admission is still laced with lies. "I did it to heal faster" yeah right.

All the kiss a$$ sportscasters in St Louis are talking like all is forgiven and he should get a pass and all the records should stand.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Looking_for_911

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A bunch of people feel this way about Pete Rose... and, if it's good enough for Petey, it's good enough for Markie and every other cheat on the block!

Pete is banned from baseball for life.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by nostatic

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Joe Jackson played his heart out. But cheated. And he was banned. Rightfully so.
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I could make a pretty persuasive argument that this is false, not that it matters.

I quit watching baseball when they cancelled the World Series due to greed. I have not watched any MLB at all since then, I even change the channel when highlights come on ESPN. I have not seen anything to change my mind. When all the homerun fever was happening, it struck me how obvious it was what the deal was, but nobody cared enough to do or say much.

Baseball was my favorite sport growing up, I faked being sick to get out of school and watch Roberto Clemente in the Series.

[Highlander179]

Originally Posted by rick-l

His admission is still laced with lies. "I did it to heal faster" yeah right.

All the kiss a$$ sportscasters in St Louis are talking like all is forgiven and he should get a pass and all the records should stand.

No more lies than A-Roid, Manny, or any of the others that have been forgiven.

[rick-l]

Originally Posted by Highlander179

No more lies than A-Roid, Manny, or any of the others that have been forgiven.

He also said he would have broken the home run record even if he didn't do steroids for ten years. He said hitting home runs was God's gift to him.

What an egotistical jerk.

[JavaBrewer]

Hopefully this news will further propel the anti doping movement in sports (pro and amateur).

[1990C4S]

Did baseball have rules in place banning 'performance enhancers' when he set the record? My recollection is they did not.

On what grounds should he be jailed? Did he lie about his steroid use? Again, my recollection is that he refused to talk about it.

Were the steroids he took illegal at the time?

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

Were the steroids he took illegal at the time?

Yes.

[m21sniper]

Yes, steroids are illegal, they're a controlled substance.

[1990C4S]

I do not know the applicable laws in your country; Assuming he had a prescription did he commit a crime?

[McLovin]

Assuming that space aliens injected him without him knowing during his sleep, did he commit a crime?

[widgeon13]

WTF, he lied about it to protect his arse and now still hopes for the Hall of Fame. What a dbag, he and all the rest should get what Rose got, kicked out of the game.

It's a ******* game and they cheated!

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

I do not know the applicable laws in your country; Assuming he had a prescription did he commit a crime?

He didn't have a prescription.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

He didn't have a prescription.

And if he did, the doctor who issued it would probably be in deep doo-doo.