Resume question. What should or shouldn't I include?

[serge944]

Keep it brief. To the point. Only include relevant information. No body gives a s**t that you were an eagle scout.

You shouldn't have a problem...

[porsche4life]

You just proved that you know NOTHING about scouting.... That is the absolute ONE THING that I would NEVER leave off of my resume.... That is a very important thing to most people.. Tells them that I am a motivated, trustworthy, strong leader, etc....


Research what it takes to get that... It ain't easy...

[Dueller]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

Yes somehow I have NO moving violations in the last 2yrs... (warnings don't get recorded )


Only semblance of an accident is some azzhat backed into my 944 while I was INSIDE subway getting dinner....


I'll talk to my buddy and see who I need to talk to there and when the best time to catch them is...

Also...line up your references today....call them and let them know you may be using them. Have Them typed out on a separate document so if he looks over your resume and wants references you can hand them to him on the spot.

I disagree wiuth serge...I think if nothing else being an eagle scout shows you are goal oriented. If he asks why you want to work at a pharmacy, just tell him you want the first hand experience as that is you major and you hope it will benefit you having it oon your application to pharmD program as well.

[Christien]

Originally Posted by vash

good luck kid! you're early in the game. worry about grammar, spelling, and sounding intelligent. get a proof reader, not me...i type like a fool.

again, good luck

Yes, this is HUGE. I forgot all about that. Nothing turns me off a person faster than seeing grammar and spelling mistakes. Typos are one thing, but get your you're/your, there/their/they're and its/it's correct.

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

You just proved that you know NOTHING about scouting.... That is the absolute ONE THING that I would NEVER leave off of my resume.... That is a very important thing to most people.. Tells them that I am a motivated, trustworthy, strong leader, etc....

Research what it takes to get that... It ain't easy...

The problem is that not everyone who is doing the hiring knows the slightest thing about scouting.

If you are looking to get a job in Dallas with the scouts then fine but many people, especially women unless they have sons, have any idea what a scout is, nor an Eagle Scout. It means a lot to YOU, and a lot to people who know what it is but usually stops there.

Human Resources, who is usually involved with hiring, is usually highly staffed with women, so keep this in mind.

[emcon5]

Originally Posted by serge944

No body gives a s**t that you were an eagle scout.

You are wrong sir.

Nobody gives a s**t if you are a Cub Scout, or a Boy Scout.

Eagle Scout is a whole 'nother ball game.

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

The problem is that not everyone who is doing the hiring knows the slightest thing about scouting.

If you are looking to get a job in Dallas with the scouts then fine but many people, especially women unless they have sons, have any idea what a scout is, nor an Eagle Scout. It means a lot to YOU, and a lot to people who know what it is but usually stops there.

Human Resources, who is usually involved with hiring, is usually highly staffed with women, so keep this in mind.

So he should omit something that could carry considerable weight to people who are not idiots, because idiots may see it?

And no, I am not an eagle scout.

[herr_oberst]

Sid, absolutely on the Eagle Scout. That one achievement speaks volumes about your character. And I know you know it.

If there is any way that you can find someone (responsible!) who knows you and also knows the person hiring to present your resume that would be golden, too.

Good luck. We're all pulling for you.

[Joeaksa]

Never said that he should omit that he was a Eagle Scout, but just remember that there are a LOT of people who do not even know what one is.

[porsche4life]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

The problem is that not everyone who is doing the hiring knows the slightest thing about scouting.

If you are looking to get a job in Dallas with the scouts then fine but many people, especially women unless they have sons, have any idea what a scout is, nor an Eagle Scout. It means a lot to YOU, and a lot to people who know what it is but usually stops there.

Human Resources, who is usually involved with hiring, is usually highly staffed with women, so keep this in mind.

Joe it may be the largest private pharmacy in town... But still not big enough to have an HR department..... I have a good feeling I will be talking to the guy that owns the place...

[Porsche-O-Phile]

I agree. Eagle Scout counts for a lot. So does military service. So do a lot of things. I like to see things on resumes that tell me something about a person other than a work history summary, which is boring, largely pointless and going to come up on an interview anyway.

[HarryD]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

Joe it may be the largest private pharmacy in town... But still not big enough to have an HR department..... I have a good feeling I will be talking to the guy that owns the place...

You are talking to the owner. Be direct. Do not waste his time.

Show up early with a decent haircut, nice clothes (suit and tie if you have one, or slacks and tie if not). Be sure your shirt is pressed and your shoes are shined. Sounds silly but it makes a good impression to let him know YOU mean business.

Be sure you hit all of your good points. These include: You are Pre-phamacy, being an eagle scout, working for for your dad, have a clean driving record, your activities in CLUB SCRUB and anything else that makes it clear that your a concientious, honest and hardworking.

Before you go, work up a 30 second comeerical for your self. Something like: Hi, I am Harry. I am really intersted in your postion as a clerk/delivery driver. I am currently in pre-pharamcy at school and this position will give me a better idea of what it takes to do the job. Lets talk about what you need me to do.

Listen to what he is asking you and answer honestly. Be sure you hit all of your good points. These include: You are Pre-phamacy, being an eagle scout, working for for your dad, having a clean driving record, your activities in CLUB SCRUBm being a Camp counselor, and anything else that makes it clear that your a concientious, hoenst and hardworking.

If you want the job, towards the end of the interview TELL him you want the job and when will you hear from him about your starting date.

Best of luck.

[HarryD]

One more thing, if you can, practice your introduction speech and questions and answers with someone you trust.

[porsche4life]

Alright... Went by and asked for the guy... Shook his hand and introduced myself. Left him a resume... He asked about my schedule and then told me he'd call in the next few weeks...

[HarryD]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

Alright... Went by and asked for the guy... Shook his hand and introduced myself. Left him a resume... He asked about my schedule and then told me he'd call in the next few weeks...

OK. This is when you need to be aggressive without being a pain.

You should write him a letter thanking him for his time and letting him know of your interest in getting the job. Highlight something about yourself that would help him to decide to hire you. In the closing of the letter tell him you are looking forward to speaking again with him soon.

Wait about 7 days after you mail the letter and call him (if has not contacted you). Ask if he had a chance to look over your resume. As appropriate, ask him if he needed any more information. Before you stop the contact, set a time for your to touch base (in about 2 weeks) and follow up.

Good luck.

[porsche4life]

How long should this letter be? Hand written?

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Typed is fine. Nothing overly wordy. Three or four sentences tops.

Dear Sir,

I wish to thank you once again for taking the time to meet with me on [date] to discuss the delivery driver position with your company. In wake of our discussion I am convinced that I am an ideal candidate for this position and wish to once again express my interest. I look forward to hearing from you in the coming days. Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Speed Racer


Summin' like that.

[Christien]

NEVER hand-write a business letter. It makes you look either very young or completely out of touch with the modern world. In any case, it's unprofessional. The only handwriting on a business letter should be your signature.

[aigel]

Originally Posted by HarryD

Dude,

You are just starting out. No one expects you to show a century of experience.

If it was me, I would go to a format like this:

SUMMARY - Three sentences. Tell them where you want to go with this job and your future plans.

WORK EXPERIENCE - Bullet list. Tell them your duties for your dad and the day camp.

OUTSIDE EXPERIENCES - Bullet list. Tell them about your non-work expericences that are relevant to the job. Leave off PCA. Scout stuff, after school clubs, committees ect are good..

EDUCATION - tell them where you are at school.

REFERENCES - Will furnish on request. All the ones you have would be ok. They will only need 2 or 3. Tell them if you got the job, you will give them the contacts. The reason for not right away is you do not want the employer to waste their time on a fishing expedition.

This is good advice. I would not put references. Just say available upon request.

I would only put "clean driving record". Don't say "no moving violations for the last 2 years", as that implies you have tickets.

And finally, leave PCA off, as others have recommended.

George

[HarryD]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

Typed is fine. Nothing overly wordy. Three or four sentences tops.

Dear Sir,

I wish to thank you once again for taking the time to meet with me on [date] to discuss the delivery driver position with your company. In wake of our discussion I am convinced that I am an ideal candidate for this position and wish to once again express my interest. I look forward to hearing from you in the coming days. Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Speed Racer


Summin' like that.

Jeff,

Good letter (although I would use another adjective other than "wake").

Also, instaed of being passive and saying "... I look forward to hearing from you in the coming days ... ". I would say: "... I look forward to speaking with you in the coming days. " My reasoning is that this way, you left the door open for you to call him if nothing happens.

[pwd72s]

I agree with Matt...play up the scouting...minimize PCA....or don't mention it at all.