Watch has moisture on the inside of the crystal?

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I think the screw down crown is a must for diving. Had a Tag that got foggy, never ran worth a damn after that

Rust/corrosion inside a watch will do that. Pools have far too many chemicals that are not really good, then salt water is not good either.

[holtjv]

Won't sudden temperature changes do the same thing? I took a new watch with 100m resistance from a hot beach to being splashed in the ocean. Fogged immediately and formed a drop. Screw down post certainly didn't prevent it.

Just sent it back today (androidusa watch). Will see what they say.

[Tobra]

Never even went swimming in a pool with the TAG, lake, river, shower, it was a low end watch

[ODDJOB UNO]

cameras and watches were NEVER MEANT to go UNTAWATA! even an OYSTER machined out of a block of stainless steel still has to have a hole drilled in it for the screw down knurled knob.

so as with a camera body...............when ya put a hole in it, well thats were mr. aqua wants to enter. and how they stop that, aint a submarine hatch...........its an lil itty bitty teensie weensie O-RING!


heres a lil lesson on taking anything in pools.

pools are berry berry bad on equipment. ALWAYS FLUSH THE HELL OUT OF GEAR WITH FRESH WATER. including flushing BC bladder completely and regulators as well as cameras and watches.

now heres a lil lesson on the el mar.

you have (2) things werking against you and your gear and o-rings. salt water crystals and sand. (1) measly ass salt water crystal or sand particle CAN and WILL RUIN YOUR DIVE/DAY/GEAR! you must clean cameras especially before opening in fresh water on board dive boat.............PERIOD! your watch dont woory about it unless you didnt tighten the hell out of the screw and then yer screwed. but cameras must be flushed with fresh water completely and then completely dry before opening for battery change/film change/camera card change. same with unta wata strobes.


so anytime ya put a hole in some metal/plastic/lexan thats going untawata...........make sure yer O-RINGS are new and cleaned and lubed with silicone! ask me how i know?????

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

Yes.... Because a 1k watch is a smart thing for a college kid..... I bought that from Invictashark for less than 100....

Your right, what am I thinking. A good watch isn't that important underwater. I'm sure when you draw your last oz of O2 you will be glad you went light.

I hear Walmart is having a sale on bike helmets. Maybe I'll score one for the next time I race the P-car...

[ODDJOB UNO]

Originally Posted by LubeMaster77

Your right, what am I thinking. A good watch isn't that important underwater. I'm sure when you draw your last oz of O2 you will be glad you went light.

I hear Walmart is having a sale on bike helmets. Maybe I'll score one for the next time I race the P-car...

a good watch IS VERY IMPORTANT! always RE-DUM-DANCY(redundancy). if yer pressure gauge goes to poo how do you know how long you have been underwater?

now i use a watch,set the bezel as i submerge, have (2) pressure gauges(re-dum-dancy), a scubapro dive computer that wipes my ass it has so many menus and AUDIBLE ALARMS, and i carry a SPARE AIR BOTTLE....................ALWAYS!


and thats why im still alive today! and yes i have had to emergency ascend using my spare air bottle off of kona hawaii because of a POS hose splitting and the reg had just been serviced and the hose was NEW!


POOOOOO DOES HAPPEN!

[porsche4life]

Originally Posted by LubeMaster77

Your right, what am I thinking. A good watch isn't that important underwater. I'm sure when you draw your last oz of O2 you will be glad you went light.

I hear Walmart is having a sale on bike helmets. Maybe I'll score one for the next time I race the P-car...

My instructor wears a $50 digital timex..... He has been instructing since '78....


time won't let you run out of air.... Thats what your SPG is for...

[porsche4life]

FWIW.... I didn't buy this with the intention of diving with it... I already had it when I started the class and thought what they hey....


My fossil did just fine last time we dove in the pool...

[alf]

Did you activate the chrono buttons in the water? That will let water in on most chronos.

Personally, I would toss the invicta/flip it after you get it serviced, get a Seiko SKX007 for about $150, it will go deeper than you should.

[adrian jaye]

huh

100m surface.

surely you need to be 100m down from the surface otherwise ts rated for 0, i.e. not water resistant

Originally Posted by Tishabet

Rated... "Water resistant 100M?"

The only watch you want to dive with is one that actually says "Diver" on its rating e.g. "Diver's 100M" or 200M or 300M. The other ratings are really only suitable for the surface.

[GH85Carrera]

OK, I have a question for the scuba guys. My watch is a Seiko Pathfinder. On the back it says it is rated to 10 Bar. How many meters down is that?

I have been swimming with it before with no problem.

[ODDJOB UNO]

for the FNG's...............right this very INSTANT you are living existing working screwing off IN THE 1st ATMOSPHERE! aka TERRA FIRMA.


the 2nd atmosphere is 0-33 feet.

the 3rd atmosphere is 33-66 feet.

the 4th atmosphere is 66-99 feet.
und so veiter......................................


now why do submarines have a CRUSH DEPTH LIMIT?


because of how many POUNDS PER SQUARE INCH of PRESSURE is exerted on their hull. and when they exceed that..................well its ADIOS MUCHACHOS for the bubbleheads. and the hull IMPLODES! or caves in .


now for any "waterproof" gear to last, the tolerances held on machining items must be held very tight. kind of call your watch or camera a submarine cause the O-RINGS act as lil watertight doors. if the tolerance held is not correct, or the o-ring is compromised by sand or salt crystals or age or lack of silicone, you have catestrophic flooding of the object.


now in the case of my regulator hose leaking. it was leaking a minute amount at the surface. not even enough to notice or hear or see on my SPG's(plural like (2). when i dove deeper pressure was exerted enough to cause it to leak at a furious pace. now since this was a NIGHT DIVE, nobody noticed. the deeper i got, the faster it leaked air and then i got my LOW AIR alarm from my scubapro uwatec decom meter(downloadable to my puter). WTF?????????????????????? as i look at both of my SPG's and they is below 500 psi. NOW WE HAVE A SER-I-ASS PROBLEMO!


now considering we were watching multiple giant assed volkswagon sized manta rays with numerous dive boats and everyjuans dive light shining up...........it was kind of difficult to see any bubbles escaping let alone the divemaster.

i finally grabbed my spare air bottle and had a death grip on it, and shined my divelight horizontal and found my divemaster and alerted him to my conundrum. i gave him the out of air signal and we proceeded up, about 30 feet from the surface i felt my poseidon regulator starting to breathe hard and knew the end was near and got ready to ditch regulator and slam spare air into my mouth. and then then the end came and i got spare air into my mouth for the rest of the ascent and the story was over.


what i am trying to point out here is any minute leak or failure at the surface is exacerbated by pressure exerted pertaining to your depth. ie. the deeper ya go the more pressure exerted.


sooooooooooooo......................with that in mind a watch that works in the shower or pool may not make it past the 2nd atmosphere if tolerances not held or o-rings compromised.


now how do you suppose my reg hose was compromised since EVERYDAMN TIME I GO DIVING ALL MY GEAR IS SERVICED?



well after a few beers discussing my activities and looking at the hose, we found the scuff marks and on my previous day dives we had bean diving the kona lava tubes off old kona airport road. and this is the home if the INFAMOUS KONA EXPRESS SURGE! while diving in there i had a few kona express surge rides and got banged up pretty damn good along the roof and sides of the cave. yeah not a hell of alot of fun. trust me more gawd damn sea urchins than i ever want to see in my life. anyway during one of these washing machine tumblers we suspect my hose was dragged along the lava tubes abrasive wall and compromised.


solution.................all my hoses for my poseidon main and my poseidon octopus, my SPG'S(plural-like (2), and my BC and my drysuit are now SHEATHED IN KEVLAR SHEATHING!


and thats how ya learn from your experience and live to tell about it!

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

OK, I have a question for the scuba guys. My watch is a Seiko Pathfinder. On the back it says it is rated to 10 Bar. How many meters down is that?

I have been swimming with it before with no problem.

Can tell you do not have a German turbo car!

1 bar is about 14.5 psi, so we are talking about a lot of pressure.

OJ's comments above are a good guide.

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by holtjv

Won't sudden temperature changes do the same thing? I took a new watch with 100m resistance from a hot beach to being splashed in the ocean. Fogged immediately and formed a drop. Screw down post certainly didn't prevent it.

Just sent it back today (androidusa watch). Will see what they say.

Any watch that fogs up like this had moisture inside that should not be there.

Again, send it in, get it cleaned up and sealed and try again.

[porsche4life]

Originally Posted by alf

Did you activate the chrono buttons in the water? That will let water in on most chronos.

Personally, I would toss the invicta/flip it after you get it serviced, get a Seiko SKX007 for about $150, it will go deeper than you should.

I'm not gunna flip it... its still a damned nice watch... I just can't dive in it....

[Damian in NJ]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Any watch that fogs up like this had moisture inside that should not be there.

Again, send it in, get it cleaned up and sealed and try again.

Not correct. The inside of a watch contains air. Air has water vapor. In extreme conditions (showering in hot water with your watch on, then toweling off in a cold bedroom) this can happen.

The same thing happens when you exit a cold movie theater into a muggy August afternoon-your glasses can fog up.

And someone posted about a waterproof watch. It doesn't exist.

Additionally, water resistance is a condition, not a guarantee. You could have had your watch be water resistant yesterday, knocked the crown on a counter today, and get water in the watch tonight.