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svandamme 03-05-2010 11:36 AM

PPOT is getting soft, this is the second time i catch you lot failing to ask the obvious.

1 Is she hot
2 where's the pic.

Again, y'all are going soft in the noggin' , don't know why
booze, drugs, general lack of effort, whatever, i just call it like i see it, and i say y'all are getting soft.

GH85Carrera 03-05-2010 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 5219600)
.....or Philadelphia.:D

I'm not going to enter the debate regarding what Shaun should or should not have done. I wasn't there, and neither were most of you.

But.....based on what I've read here, I would certainly carry a loaded gun for a while. I estimate the likelihood of this fruitcake coming back into the picture at least 50/50. At least. And I would start with the assumption he is armed, dangerous and arriving with bad intent. If Shaun acted properly by peacefully retiring the situation today, if this guy reappears, it would be foolish for Shaun to show the slightest hesitation. If you see this guy again Shaun, and if one of his hands disappears from your sight, he needs to be looking down a barrel.

+10

If he comes back it will not be to apologize.

TechnoViking 03-05-2010 11:42 AM

It's real easy to post on an internet forum that you would have kicked that guy's ass. It's another thing entirely when you are put in the situation and you don't have a keyboard to protect you.

Shaun could have kicked the guy's ass. OR, he might have ended up in the hospital, and then got sued for everything he owns. Calling the cops is the right thing to do.

Not everybody is "likes to fight guy". I can do it, but I really hate it.

Tishabet 03-05-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5219531)
Shaun took the girl's way out.

As would you, apparently.

The wolf laughs at you sheep as he picks his teeth with your bones.

No, I would have decked the guy and kept on hitting until he was down. Where you and I differ is that I know Shaun was the better man for his show of restraint.

vwbobd 03-05-2010 11:55 AM

You should have threw his a$$ down the stairs ....and then call the cops:D

Then bang his girl , video it and send it to him ,

wdfifteen 03-05-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 5219459)
That's why Shaun owns a business and you don't.

Sometimes a "man" has to keep his fists to himself for a better outcome. If you let your ego run your life, you won't get far. Well, unless you're in Hollywood...

+ 1
Your life isn't worth much if you judge yourself and your manhood by whom you can beat up/shoot/run over with a 4x4. Shaun did the right thing.

mike monde 03-05-2010 12:09 PM

I think Shaun showed proper restraint in this case. As much as I believe in defending yourself when you feel threatened, you where are at your place of business and this was a "lose/lose" proposition for you. Unless you felt threatened and needed to defend yourself from bodily harm, best to walk away and call the police. My guess is that this idiot wanted to pull you into a physical confrontation so that he could have turned it into a lawsuit. As a business owner and mature adult, you come would ahve come out of this on the short end even if you kicked his ass. Just not worht the risk, IMO
I would call the police just to get it on record just in case he does reappears looking for a confrontation.

Now before sniper calls me "puzzy":D, I should point out that I did grow up in Philly, in an area and that we all knew and understood the "code". I have been in plenty of "tussles" in my younger years over someone "touching me" or "disrespecting me" so I certainly understand the natural reaction of "kicking ass" when placed in these types of situations. But I always remember the advice my father would give his sons about fighting. "Walk away today so you can fight another day". I had a hard time with his advice when I was young buck looking to protect my rep but his point was simple; be selective when you choose to use your fists and always weigh the consequences that will occur afterwards. As I stated earlier, I grew up in an area in Philly that could would be "consequences" if you picked the wrong guy to fight. When I was young, it didn't matter nor did I care so I was quick to "throw down" to resolve most issues or protect my rep. As I got older and hopefully more wiser his advice made more sense. Back in the old days men could settle a dispute with a fair fight, unfortunatley in todays world,its more likely one or both will pull out a weapon to settle a score or "lawyer up"for some compensation. IMO, just not worth the risk of being sued or killed. I give my son the same advice my father gave me and hopefully it guilds him to avoid most physical confrontations unless absolutely necessary and minimizes te consequences that come with these types of decisions. Always wiegh the potential consequences before you act as some could be life changing experences.
One last thought, get rid of the temp, the fact that she brought that type of element into your place of business doesn't warrant keeping her around.

911Rob 03-05-2010 12:13 PM

Snipe.... you're losing it buddy?

Shaun did the right thing; I wouldn't of called the cops as its a waste of time imo. Glad it worked out for you though and having a good relationships with the boys in blue cant hurt.
You need to focus on your deadline tomorrow and not some punk kid that wants into your space. Let it go and move your focus beyond.

If he looks or appears tougher than you, then OK give him a wack, but if not, just handle the situation like you did; which is prolly the case. Last guy that took a swing at me I just grabbed him in a second flat and threw him on the ground with all I could muster. He got up and took another swing, so I repeated the same only this time landing on top of him with my knee in his back and his arm wrenched behind him and said to him, you dont want to F with me. He was younger and tougher, but I was older and wiser.

All that failing, call Denis and get the boy beotch slapped by the pro.

DonDavis 03-05-2010 12:14 PM

Hmm, well let's see.
Shaun invited him into his place or the invite was implied.
If Shaun felt threatened, he's supposed to call the cops and let them deal with it. He cannot FORCIBLY remove someone from his place. That's the cops job.
If Shaun DID strike the guy, the guy could press charges. It then becomes a he said/ she said. Everyone loses but Shaun loses more as a business owner.

I don't like it but that's the way the law works.
Had a similar situ happen to me and I dropped the guy. Cops damn near arrested ME!

Shaun did the right thing. Going forward, if douche nozzle shows up again, Shaun can protect himself as needed and the cops will believe his story.

m21sniper 03-05-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 5219546)
I might not have hit him when he was headbutting me, but I would feel bad about not doing it. It's your business and your life, but from past experiences, as long as they touch you first you can take the shot.

EXACTLY.

The guy assaulted him!

This is absolutely clear cut self defense.

It is no wonder we live in a world full of victims given the responses in this thread by most. I am sorry, but most of you are women disguised as sheep. I would eat broken glass before i would let someone head butt me on my own property(or anywhere else, for that matter).

I am absolutely certain that Angela would agree.

Honestly, i'd rather have her in my fox hole than most of the "men" in this thread. (and i am talking about her ability to fight, not just because she's a stone cold hottie in every measure of the word)

nostatic 03-05-2010 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5219534)
I've been in over 100 fist fights, no one has ever sued me or called the cops.

I was also self employed for many years.

And now?

imho anyone who has been in "over 100 fist fights" has issues and frankly is making some very bad choices. But if it works for you...

TerryBPP 03-05-2010 12:42 PM

...and all pitbullz should be euthanized,
...pro abortion,
...pro clubbing baby seals,
...anti American Idol.


Figured I'd add some grease to this dumpster fire :D

m21sniper 03-05-2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 5219734)
And now?

imho anyone who has been in "over 100 fist fights" has issues and frankly is making some very bad choices. But if it works for you...

Why am i not self employed? 2 of my biggest accounts retired/closed shop, and my biggest account gave his accounts to his relative.

This all happened in a matter of 2 months.

At that point it was easier and more lucrative just to work for a big repo firm, which is what i did.

Todd you don't survive in the neighborhood i grew up in as one of the smallest guys in a mixed race melting pot unless you are willing to throw down at a moment's notice.

I've also had to fight numerous times as a bartender or member of a club security staff, as well as having had to fight off more than a few assaults over the years on the job.

That covers at least 1/2 of the fights i've been in, and not a single one of them were by choice.

And then there were the bar fights in the military when we ran into marines or gun bunnies that wanted to run their mouth about the US Army infantry.

We come from extremely divergent worlds Todd. Your attitude wouldn't last 5 minutes in the neighborhood i grew up in. Honestly.

BeyGon 03-05-2010 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryBPP (Post 5219736)
...and all pitbullz should be euthanized,
...pro abortion,
...pro clubbing baby seals,
...anti American Idol.


Figured I'd add some grease to this dumpster fire :D

Anti American Idol? Aren't you getting carried away?

Superman 03-05-2010 12:49 PM

I'd have ripped his tongue out and shoved it in his ear. In the first half-second. Then, while he's stunned by the surprise, I'd have broken both femurs and both humerus', so I could more easily tie him in a knot. Then I'd have hooked him up to a chain and dragged him behind my Harley to the nearest biker bar, where I'd introduce him to "Hairy and the Hendersons." At the end of the night, I'd have shot him dead and made it look like an accident.

Superman 03-05-2010 12:51 PM

I've been in THOUSANDS of fistfights. Most of them against 10+ guys. Won them all. Easily.

m21sniper 03-05-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 5219757)
I've been in THOUSANDS of fistfights. Most of them against 10+ guys. Won them all. Easily.

Hey man, we aint all superman!!!

Most people i've ever fought at once was 5. Bad odds for men of flesh. :D

911Rob 03-05-2010 12:55 PM

perfect. ;)
you get in life what you want

if you really, really, really want something, you'll get it.
if you really, really, really dont want something, you'll get it too.
learn to focus on what you want.

911Rob 03-05-2010 12:57 PM

Ha, I fought about 6 or 7 once; they waited for me to come out of my workplace and then they kicked the crap outa me. I was about 17. Funny, I think I enjoyed it?

m21sniper 03-05-2010 01:01 PM

I can honestly say i used to love to fight when i was younger. I didn't care if i lost, as long as i got enough of a piece of the other guy to make sure he'd remember me.

In my hood you fought to show you weren't a biitch.

Turning the other cheek or calling the cops made things a thousand times worse for you in my hood, and it still does in hoods all across America every day.

Talking to the cops is considered extremely dishonorable among the natives in these locales.


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