Are expandable/extendable batons illegal?

[m21sniper]

I've used pepper spray several times on people. It works great. (Some are supposedly immune).

Everyone i've ever sprayed with it has lost their will to fight immediately.

[MT930]

UDAP Bear Deterrent Pepper Spray

Bear spray works great for dogs I have seen it used a couple times on aggressive dogs on trails in the area. The older lady hikers won't bat an eye hosing down an aggressive dog out hiking.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by GWN7

What ad you see depends on the topic of the thread.

It shoots out in a concentrated stream.

Used mine once, a bear decided to see if I was eatable while I was up in a tree stand. He got up about 6-7 feet up the trunk of the tree and I squirted him in the face. He let go with his front paws to wipe at his eyes and fell backwards to the ground. Then stumbled off into the bush wiping at his eyes as he went.

The stuff I carry shoots a "cone".

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by MT930

The older lady hikers won't bat an eye hosing down an aggressive dog out hiking.

Nor should they.

I like the stream foam sprays the best. Preferably the ones that are mixed with CS/CN/OC. That way if they're immune to one of the chem compounds, you still have two other agents at work to incapacitate them.

Never spray pepper spray up wind unless absolutely necessary.

[vash]

IF i had an ASP, i would have it on the bookcase by my front door. first line of defense if a "j-witness" decides to get fresh with me. i have tapped my leg gently with one...ouch. it hurts.

i would never have on in my car.

[E38Driver]

You ca use wasp and hornet spray as well. It has an effective spray range of 15 to 20 feet.

Dave

[vash]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

I've used pepper spray several times on people. It works great. (Some are supposedly immune).

Everyone i've ever sprayed with it has lost their will to fight immediately.

i joke that my sister invented pepper spray.

i have been maced 3x in my life. once by my sis's homemade version. dropped me on my butt. i was 10. then twice again, by my sister. once with my dad's policeman (was it?) mace, and the final time with some stuff for dogs. mailman version. i hit the deck, blubbering all three times.

that cop stuff, came from a cylinder that spray axially. my mom drove me to the hospital screaming. i kicked and scratched the doc, while they tried to pry my eyes open. people wonder why i keep arms distance from sis, mentally and physically.

[Rot 911]

I always carry a squirt gun with ammonia cleaner in it. Works quite well and no permanent harm to the dog.

[juanbenae]

maybe-so, are you kidding me? i can just see you in yir bike shorts riding down the road, dog takes chase. you fumble around trying to get the baton out and extended as dog draws you in. you try to swing at said dog and it all goes bad from there. perched atop a bike is not a spot to be swinging a club from

[teenerted1]

they already make them for cyclist...they are called frame pumps

and the old classic silca with a steel head...carried one of these on my road bike for years.

otherwise you can carry a can of "HALT"

but i have never needed more than one swing with a pump toward the offender.

[cantdrv55]

Originally Posted by car 311

maybe-so, are you kidding me? i can just see you in yir bike shorts riding down the road, dog takes chase. you fumble around trying to get the baton out and extended as dog draws you in. you try to swing at said dog and it all goes bad from there. perched atop a bike is not a spot to be swinging a club from

lol, you are right. With my luck, it would probably get caught up in the spokes.

[cantdrv55]

Originally Posted by vash

i joke that my sister invented pepper spray.

i have been maced 3x in my life. once by my sis's homemade version. dropped me on my butt. i was 10. then twice again, by my sister. once with my dad's policeman (was it?) mace, and the final time with some stuff for dogs. mailman version. i hit the deck, blubbering all three times.

that cop stuff, came from a cylinder that spray axially. my mom drove me to the hospital screaming. i kicked and scratched the doc, while they tried to pry my eyes open. people wonder why i keep arms distance from sis, mentally and physically.

I met your sister. She is hot!

[NutmegCarrera]

Bike pump- Good concept, but no weight. No inertia. "Bad dog" will be followed closely by - "Hello, Doctor".

Another angle to use is carb cleaner. Will drop anyone/anything on their a$$, right now. Also very legal


Just a thought - not as much for on the bike, but in questionable areas in the car.

[Rick V]

[RWebb]

I agree, spray is the best thing for you.

re extendable batons - if you put a small ball head on it, then it becomes a monopod for your camera...

[vash]

Originally Posted by cantdrv55

I met your sister. She is hot!

might i suggest; SAFETY GLASSES!

[Hugh R]

Some of the gangbangers in LA reportedly carry old fashioned metal bicycle peddles as a substitute for brass knuckles, not illegal apparently. Same reason they carry long bladed screwdrivers.

[campbellcj]

I guess there is also the old school metal D-cell Maglite option too. On occasion I also see people walking around with (single) golf clubs and I don't think they are doing any golfing.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by teenerted1

they already make them for cyclist...they are called frame pumps

and the old classic silca with a steel head...carried one of these on my road bike for years.

otherwise you can carry a can of "HALT"

but i have never needed more than one swing with a pump toward the offender.

Silca pump will break if you swing it. the body is plastic, so what it has a metal head. I have had a ton of those both chrome and painted one to match the bike. CAmpy head or silca, the body will break like a tooth pick. Halt, my butt. I have spray dogs that came at me on my bike. It did not do a thing to it. Those bastard know how to time you and they run at you at an angle. The go for the ankle. Ask me how I know. Worst thing is at stop lights because you have no where to go.

[m21sniper]

If you're going baton, an ASP with a diamond tip is definitely the way to go.

I had one of those for several years, but lost it somewhere a few years ago. I suspect i returned it to a dealer in a repo. Whoops.

Anyway- ASP batons seriously kick ass.

I've always used a 4 or 5 cell D maglite for repoing. Highly visible/intimidating and extremely useful as both a weapon and a light.