What choice for first pistol?

[m21sniper]

Always glad to help.

And don't forget to order yourself some Cor Bon DPX too.

[Nathans_Dad]

Went to the range today with a friend who has a bunch of guns. I had talked to him about my choices in pistols so he brought out a Glock 9 mm, a Smith and Wesson M P 9 mm and the H&K PSP P9.

I shot probably 40-50 rounds through each one. I didn't really like the Glock much, I wasn't very accurate with it, although he agreed it seemed off after he shot it because everything was a little high and left. Overall, just didn't like the way the gun fit my hand.

I am torn between the other two. The Smith and Wesson fit my hand better and my groups were tighter with it. I liked the 15 round mag vs the 8 rounder in the H&K but in reality it won't make a difference unless I am at the range shooting. I really like the squeeze cock feature on the H&K, it would give me a lot more peace of mind vs the thumb safety on the MP 9. The one he had didn't have a safety but I would definitely get one if I bought one. Accuracy is probably comparable, like I said the S&W groups were a little tighter, but I don't have much pistol shooting experience so I'm sure that would get better. The recoil on the H&K was better than the S&W, the H&K seemed to come more straight back into my hand whereas the S&W had more barrel kick to it.

The S&W is probably a hundred bucks or so cheaper used vs the H&K. If I were to want to concealed carry, the H&K would be a better choice.

So, I'm gonna chew on it a little.

[70racing]

Snipe steered me in the right direction for my recent P7 - just wish I had known about these last year when I bought a Kimber Crimson Trace - The H&K is just a fine weapon. Hey Snipe - I got through the FN 5 7 lust, just quit coming up with other great reviews on spoons - you should be a 'gun writer'.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad

Went to the range today with a friend who has a bunch of guns. I had talked to him about my choices in pistols so he brought out a Glock 9 mm, a Smith and Wesson M P 9 mm and the H&K PSP P9.

I shot probably 40-50 rounds through each one. I didn't really like the Glock much, I wasn't very accurate with it, although he agreed it seemed off after he shot it because everything was a little high and left. Overall, just didn't like the way the gun fit my hand.

I am torn between the other two. The Smith and Wesson fit my hand better and my groups were tighter with it. I liked the 15 round mag vs the 8 rounder in the H&K but in reality it won't make a difference unless I am at the range shooting. I really like the squeeze cock feature on the H&K, it would give me a lot more peace of mind vs the thumb safety on the MP 9. The one he had didn't have a safety but I would definitely get one if I bought one. Accuracy is probably comparable, like I said the S&W groups were a little tighter, but I don't have much pistol shooting experience so I'm sure that would get better. The recoil on the H&K was better than the S&W, the H&K seemed to come more straight back into my hand whereas the S&W had more barrel kick to it.

The S&W is probably a hundred bucks or so cheaper used vs the H&K. If I were to want to concealed carry, the H&K would be a better choice.

So, I'm gonna chew on it a little.

Just for the record, it's P7, not P9. The P9 is a different pistol altogether.

When shooting a P7, keep in mind that while it takes 26lbs to activate the squeeze cocker, it only requires 1.5lbs to keep it so. So once you cock the pistol there is no need keep up the death grip. I find that i shoot a lot better when i hold a pistol or rifle only as tightly as is required to secure it against it's own recoil.

I was just talking to one of the most knowledgeable P7 experts on earth a little while ago and he gave me the green light to get the dust cover rail i posted about above installed, says it should work like a charm.

I'm thinking the Laser max green laser unit would be my best bet to mount on it. I'll have to shoot on2wheels52 a PM and see what price he can get the laser max unit for.

[HHI944]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Just for the record, it's P7, not P9. The P9 is a different pistol altogether.

I'd take a P9 over a P7 anyday of course there were only a few hundred P9's made before they went to the P9s.

[m21sniper]

Plainly obvious proof of .380 corbon DPX's ability to equal or exceed the performance of both 9mm and .45 ACP premium defensive ammunition.


.45 ACP Hydra-shock, .380 CorBon DPX, 9mm Rem. Golden Saber.

The cutting petals on the DPX are also of a clearly superior design to the Golden Saber, while the Hydrashock doesn't even have any cutting petals at all.

Giving 10.9" penetration as fired from a Kel Tec P3AT or Ruger LCP, IMO the .380 DPX round gives performance FAR FAR out of proportion with it's caliber and the size of the pistol. Combine this bullet performance with the precision hip shooting shot placement you can get with a Crimson Trace laser, and honestly, you should be ready for virtually any realistic scenario you might encounter.

Originally Posted by HHI944

I'd take a P9 over a P7 anyday of course there were only a few hundred P9's made before they went to the P9s.

Financially speaking, so would i.

[m21sniper]