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wierd cooling system problems 2003 civic
I have a 2003 honda civic... its a beater..
Great MPG and has run like a champ until tonight. I went for a food run and it started to overheat.. so I dashed home before the gage went into the red. I turned on the heater to full hot just to help a bit but the air came out cold... Now Im thinking.. did I run out of fluid?! The drive was short. maybe 5 min but the temp was fluctuating up and down, trending into the red. When I got home the coolant was topped off and the oil was fine. Any ideas what to check next? besides the fridge for more beer? thanks
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Its the headgasket isnt it..!? oil isnt milky.. no oil in the coolant..
could it still be?!
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Maybe the first ugly signs of a head gasket letting go. Just starting to let combustion gasses into the coolant, but not sucking coolant into the cylinders yet.
I use a block tester, but I think any shop with an emissions machine can test for co in the coolant . You may be able to smell it as well. I have never seen a water pump impeller break on a Honda. May want to check/ replace your thermostat as well.
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Bad water pump?
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Broken radiator, can't guarantee it, but it is what was wrong with my integra with the same symptoms. Plastic and aluminum, cracks where they are bonded together.
Easy fix, $400 for the radiator, upper and lower hoses about, buy a Honda one. Took me about an hour by myself.
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If there is no loss of coolant only four things could possibly be. 1) Cooling fan(s) inop 2) t-stat stuck closed or partial closed - it does happen 3) Head gasket leaking cylinder pressure into the cooling system upsetting the balance 4) Waterpump impellar failed - although I have never seen this on this car -
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My guess. Part clogged radiator. Could be head gasket... its not a 3.2 ford so I doubt it.
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could not replicate the next few drives out....
makes me think the t-stat is sticking....
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Had several Accords and they go through radiators every 7-10 years... found one on the internet for a good price and was back going in a couple of days for a reasonable price.
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With the engine warm gently grab the upper radiator hose and rev the motor. You should feel coolant circulating indicating a functioning water pump. If not, water pump or t-stat.
Why would you guys diagnose a plugged radiator? All of the sudden it just "plugged" one day and pegged the temp gauge? And usually when they crack they leak coolant... C'mon...
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I also vote for stuck thermostat since you aren't getting hot air from the heater. Cheap thing to try first.
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Had an '85 Civic several years ago. Could idle it all day and it would run cool. Get on the interstate and do a long run and it would overheat. # of different mechanics could not figure it out, did all sort of stuff to it, even jive-rigging the cooling fan to run continously.
A little guy at a radiator shop that I just happened to run across in a hot dog joint over heard me telling a "knowledgeable" person about my problem. He immediately told me that I had a clogged radiator despite seeing and feeling coolant moving through it. Those things have very few flues for the coolant to circulate and if a couple get clogged it'll run hot. Obviously the people who worked on the car were less than swift. Maybe not your situation, but I'm just sayin'.
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Had the same problem on two Civics. Clogged radiator.
The radiator on these cars is laughably small and prone to this sort of thing.
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Mine cracked on the top, lost very little coolant, of course I stopped when I saw my temp gauge acting funny.
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My '93 Accord had similar issues. The car would overheat going up hills in the warmer months. I never noticed the issue in the cooler months. The car had aluminum cooling fins, and they were corroded. I changed the radiator, and went to an "upgraded" one that had all copper construction.
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Seen it on a couple cars I've owned (Nissan/Honda)...bad thermostat on the fan.
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It was the radiator cap. It was letting coolant into the expansion tank but not back into the radiator..
It was the first part I threw at it!
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damn it. i was going to say radiator cap!! it is ALWAYS the first thing i do if a car overheats. cheap enough..
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