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I have a Bio teacher that uses PP... It sucks... They are LONG and BORING.... Doesn't help any that its a way easy class and we covered all the material in my HS.... So I sleep in class...
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I eventually made a P-Point presentation for the people running the conference I'm speaking at next week, but will probably not use it that much. I also like Keynote better, but my clients are all PC based, and Keynote does not seem to translate well in a lot of cases. |
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The DoD excels at generating 50+ slide briefs with overwhelming architecture diagrams. It's like they are using PPT as a design tool...
I present my fair share of PPT briefs and as others have said 1. Don't read the slide text - talk (in normal human language) to what the slide is presenting 2. Keep fonts large - no more than 3 bullet items per slide 3. Images/Graphics (screen grabs) are powerful as long as they are relevant to material 4. I avoid animation/gimic transitions whenever possible - YMMV 5. Know your audience Otherwise PPT is a perfectly fine tool for what it is. Most lousy briefs are due to operator error. |
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I have used Power point presentations, and have given presentations without that tool. I have sat through many PPT presentations - some good, some really ugly. It is a good tool, if used correctly. -Z-man.
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I had a structures professor kinda' like this. Guy was older than dirt - had been around a long time and clearly knew structural engineering inside-out and backwards, but couldn't teach to save his life. He'd written a book a few years prior (thankfully with the help of someone else, so the content was organized and able to be followed). His lectures were LITERALLY just him reading out of his own book and working the example problems that were in the book, with the help of an overhead projector (worse than power point IMHO). After the first week of class I'd identified the pattern and said "screw this" and stopped going. I took the book home and worked it cover-to-cover in about two weeks, doing every practice problem and end-of-chapter exam, etc. I didn't waste my time going to his class anymore. I just had someone else who was still going tell me when I needed to show up for quizzes & exams. I was always the first or second person done and never got below a 97. I finished the course with an "A" and was told I earned the third highest average score he'd ever seen in his years of teaching. Moral: Motivate yourself - don't look to power point or other stupid "spoon-fed" information to try and plant knowledge/information into your head. It doesn't work that way, much as Bill Gates will claim (for $400 a seat) that it does. Power point and overhead projectors should be banned from college classrooms entirely, IMHO.
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As a counter-point to Jeff's story:
First semester, freshmen year of college, I had Econ 101 with Tony Ostrosky at 8:00 a.m. in Capen Hall. (Capen seats about 400 people, and the room was full.) Dr. Ostrosky was animated. He gave his lectures from memory. He threw in stories from his own life that illustrated basic economic theories. He drew on the overhead to make his point. Almost every graph was price versus quantity, but he used his hand-drawn graphs to tell a story and reinforce what he was saying. His lectures really illuminated the reading material. Rather than being a crutch, he used the overhead effectively. While rare, these professors do exist.
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My name is Bill and I am a power point abuser......
Seriously, the first powerpoint presentation I gave to the apprentices was too long and far too many slides. The next three were limited to less than 15 slides and printing the presentation with 3 slides per page and area next to the slides for notes seem to work pretty well. I have used the slides instead of making (bad) drawings on the white board. I do my line diagrams on Visio and create slides from the drawings. I guess I will see when the student survey comes back how well the powerpoints went over.
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I used to do lectures by drawing on the board ( we still used chalk!), then posting PowerPoint slides of the material on my website. That seemed to work pretty well.
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All operators and engineers had to take a heat rate course at work. The instuctor said he had to show us this hundred plus page PP presentation. He showed it to us in about 30 seconds so we could say we'd seen it
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I've seen atrocious things done with spreadsheets in meetings, but that doesn't mean Excel is somehow now a worthless program.
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And the slide in question used to explain military strategy is a complete joke. Whoever made that thing is an idiot. Multiple items that have nothing to do with one another should not be jumbled together like that.
The slide, IMO, was put together by someone trying to show how hard their job is or perhaps by someone who is completely in over his head. But yea, blame Powerpoint. That'll fix everything.
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Please don't confuse Powerpoint with presentation format or skills. I actually do all my reports and memos and presentations in Powerpoint. AFWIW my presentations look nothing like your standard fair.
Bulleted slides are for talking points only. Slides can have interesting graphics, Representative graphs and charts as well as schematics and animation. I defy anyone to attend a seminar I give and tell me that my presentation is weak. It is all in the way in which the slides are built and how the speaker works the crowd.
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My father's company does computer training and consulting. The one "IT" pearl of wisdom that I have taken from him is as follows; The problem most users have with excel (or powerpoint what have you) is that the only tool they have is a hammer, thus everything looks like a nail. I would wager that the Microsoft Office package is the most commonly abused software package on the market!
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PowerPoint pays for people who know how to use it. $3k for a 20 slide presentation? Takes about 3 hours and your clients provide the research.
Points on-screen should be highlights of talking points, simple illustrations to provide a focal point or added info not included in speech but provided in accompanying handouts (if any). They can also be useful in providing speaking points for people with poor social/public speaking skills. I prefer to use my own backgrounds and graphics, though. The stock pieces are waaaaaay overused.
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then they still print em out three images a page with some lines for notes. every one i have is stained with free danish from the continental breakfast...
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When I got my MBA, years and years ago, we took two years of public speaking and writing. Including how to make a killer presentation, sales pitch, whatever.
Most valuable thing I learned and critical in any trade. Rule #1: Keep it under 15 minutes, preferably under 7. After 15 minutes you will not keep anyone's attention. Rule #2: 3 points and 3 points only Rule #3: Tell them what you will tell them, Tell them, and then tell them again what they were told. I'll add one more rule: Presentation should be at least 20% entertainment. Still works. You can give me the crappiest Powerpoint, but I'm pretty confident I can make it interesting if I can apply those rules.
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