Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 7,798
How will drilling two relief wells stop the original leaking well?

I'm curious how will drilling two relief wells stop the original well from pumping oil into the gulf?

Thinking simplistically, If I turn on one faucet in my house, then go turn on two or even more faucets...the original faucet does not turn off. Of course the pressure in the original faucet will decrease.

Do any of the oil engineers on this project know what the ultimate pressure of this well is? I'm thinking that the current pressure might not be known as it is currently defined by the size of the pipe and it's maximum ability to flow. Adding new relief wells may not change the pressure at all..

Just wondering. I'm not an engineer.

Old 05-31-2010, 12:44 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
abit off center
 
cgarr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: At the Airport Kentwood, MI
Posts: 7,311
Garage
Send a message via Yahoo to cgarr
I'm not an engineer but every time my wife fires up the wash machine when I am in the shower things get real small! Just say-in
__________________
______________________
Craig
G2Performance
Twinplug, head work, case savers, rockers arms, etc.
Old 05-31-2010, 12:59 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 7,798
Maybe that's when she does her Kagel excercises....
Old 05-31-2010, 01:28 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Cogito Ergo Sum
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29,791
Garage
I think they are trying to relieve the pressure on the leaking well so they can get it capped... They aren't going to stop the leak... They are just going to get it to a manageable pressure...
Old 05-31-2010, 02:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
SAIGON 68
 
johnnywishbone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: ChulaJuana, South of Dago
Posts: 549
Garage
? Provide an injection point for slurry?
Old 05-31-2010, 02:24 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
DanielDudley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 11,758
If this were happening in China, someone would have either committed suicide or been executed. I am currently for the latter. It might speed things up.
Old 05-31-2010, 02:31 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Driver
 
Noah930's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: gone
Posts: 17,454
Garage
I thought the point of a relief well was to intersect the original one to allow for an access point to clog/stop it.
__________________
1987 Venetian Blue (looks like grey) 930 Coupe
1990 Black 964 C2 Targa
Old 05-31-2010, 02:47 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Venetian's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 501
They will intersect the wellbore close to total depth and pump heavy mud up the original well to kill it. The heavy mud provides sufficient hydrostatic pressure to overcome the formation pressure. This would be followed by cement to ensure flow stoppage. This is the theory at least. I assume 2 wells are being drilled in case there are problems with one of the relief wells ie redundancy.
__________________
1987 Carrera, Venetian Blue.
Old 05-31-2010, 03:22 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Baton Rouge
Posts: 1,039
It won't.....Lot of national news not telling the entire truth. Just a way for them to get their oil. The BIG issue that the national news is not saying is that there is a possibility that the earths surface down there could crack and or crumble, you think we have a mess now!! They are already saying that this next move, successful or not, will increase the flow rate by 20%.
I question why there hasn't been a brain trust locked togerther in one room to come with a idea. I can't tell you the huge numbers of business that have products that can effectively deal with this disaster and they are being turned away. The dispersant, still being used, was determined by the feds was toxic and should not be used. There are scores of oil dispersant's just waiting to be used and BP won't give them the time of day.
BP is looking at this as an opportunity. An opportunity to discover new methods of dealing with this issue. The monies they will make off of theses new discoveries is untold. Just mentioned that it may be mid August before they stop the flow..utterly frustrating.

Just wait till our first hurricane. It will send a tidal surges sending oil into places not thought of and the storm will pick up oil and dispersants and send as far north as the storm travels.
Old 05-31-2010, 03:28 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Banned
 
Normy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ft.Lauderdale, FLORIDA
Posts: 2,813
The problem with this whole scheme is that they need to intercept the bore that is currently turning the Gulf of Mexico into vinaigrette. "Intercepting a bore" in this case amounts to aiming a 36 inch tube from a boat....down 5000 feet of water [current; and the boat is fighting current too-] to start drilling into mud and rock. Many of those levels of rock are filled with methane gas under pressure, and lodged within very soft rock that keeps cracking and forcing more gas pressure up the well. We aren't drilling a hole with a solid bit- we are drilling a hollow hole with a hollow bit, so when we encounter a gas pocket, the pressure shoots up the pipe, looking for a place to explode.

Then, this 36 inch tube needs to find its way down to another 36 inch tube, while being remotely drilled from 5000 feet above. It needs to curve to find this tiny tube; The difficulty of this is mind boggling!

I guess they think that they can make this work. My opinion: What they are planning over the next few days...cutting of the riser and installing a new blowout preventer...probably should have been done immediately.

-Folks: Is it ME or is this technology hopelessly obsolete? This scheize CANNOT happen again-

N!
Old 05-31-2010, 03:37 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Venetian's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 501
QUOTE:

"BP is looking at this as an opportunity. An opportunity to discover new methods of dealing with this issue. The monies they will make off of theses new discoveries is untold. Just mentioned that it may be mid August before they stop the flow..utterly frustrating."


I hardly think so. This could destroy BP.
__________________
1987 Carrera, Venetian Blue.
Old 05-31-2010, 03:38 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Bandwidth AbUser
 
Jim Richards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: SoCal
Posts: 29,522
Quote:
Originally Posted by Venetian View Post
They will intersect the wellbore close to total depth...
What are the chances that they can actually pull this intersecting the wellbore off?
__________________
Jim R.
Old 05-31-2010, 03:39 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
 
Venetian's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 501
QUOTE: "The problem with this whole scheme is that they need to intercept the bore that is currently turning the Gulf of Mexico into vinaigrette. "Intercepting a bore" in this case amounts to aiming a 36 inch tube from a boat....down 5000 feet of water [current; and the boat is fighting current too-] to start drilling into mud and rock. Many of those levels of rock are filled with methane gas under pressure, and lodged within very soft rock that keeps cracking and forcing more gas pressure up the well. We aren't drilling a hole with a solid bit- we are drilling a hollow hole with a hollow bit, so when we encounter a gas pocket, the pressure shoots up the pipe, looking for a place to explode.

Then, this 36 inch tube needs to find its way down to another 36 inch tube, while being remotely drilled from 5000 feet above. It needs to curve to find this tiny tube; The difficulty of this is mind boggling! "




Relief wells are often drilled. The technology exists. Not saying it will be easy or without issues.
__________________
1987 Carrera, Venetian Blue.
Old 05-31-2010, 03:43 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
BRPORSCHE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Houston (The Vintage), Texas
Posts: 4,523
Send a message via AIM to BRPORSCHE
Pretty darn good Jim.


Normy, stop being an armchair Pet E. BP has some seriously smart guys.

Edit: Also food for thought...Google BP + tiber. They have, if I am not mistaken, one of the deepest wells in the Gulf. I have seen rock personally from 34,000 ft.
__________________
-Tom
'73 911T MFI - in process of being restored
'73 911T MFI - bare bones
'87 924S - Keep's the Porsche DNA in my system while the 911 is down.
aka "Wolf boy"
Old 05-31-2010, 03:44 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
dtw dtw is offline
GAFB
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Raleigh, NC, USA
Posts: 7,842
Why the fk haven't they brought Bruce Willis in on this yet??

__________________
Several BMWs
Old 05-31-2010, 06:29 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Banned
 
Normy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ft.Lauderdale, FLORIDA
Posts: 2,813
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRPORSCHE View Post
Pretty darn good Jim.


Normy, stop being an armchair Pet E. BP has some seriously smart guys.

Edit: Also food for thought...Google BP + tiber. They have, if I am not mistaken, one of the deepest wells in the Gulf. I have seen rock personally from 34,000 ft.
Really? So if BP has some "seriously smart guys"....how did we get into this fix in the first place?

Huh?

HELLO?


N!
Old 05-31-2010, 06:33 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Somewhere in the Midwest
 
MotoSook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the barn!
Posts: 12,499
Quote:
Originally Posted by Normy View Post
Really? So if BP has some "seriously smart guys"....how did we get into this fix in the first place?

Huh?

HELLO?


N!
Some pretty smart guys worked on the Hubble telescope too...look what happened with that after launch...

Some pretty smart guys worked on the Mars lander too....remember that?

Some pretty smark guys worked on the space shuttle Columbia too....



All ecological and financial consequences considered for those affected by this thing, I would love to be on the team working on the problem. It's an engineering challenge like no other.
Old 05-31-2010, 07:05 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered
 
dlockhart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 10,964
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soukus View Post
I would love to be on the team working on the problem. It's an engineering challenge like no other.
The engineer who solves this mess will be a hero for a moment and has a outside shot at finally getting laid
__________________
"The primary contribution of government to this world is to elicit, entrench, enable, and finally to codify the most destructive aspects of the human personality."

Jeffrey Tucker
Old 05-31-2010, 07:16 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
 
canna change law physics
 
red-beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Houston, Tejas
Posts: 43,374
Garage
Blowout Control, Part 11 - Relief Well

There are some pretty sophisticated techniques today.
__________________
James
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the engineer adjusts the sails.- William Arthur Ward (1921-1994)
Red-beard for President, 2020
Old 05-31-2010, 07:25 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Somewhere in the Midwest
 
MotoSook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the barn!
Posts: 12,499
Quote:
Originally Posted by dlockhart View Post
The engineer who solves this mess will be a hero for a moment and has a outside shot at finally getting laid
I haven't even thought about the getting laid part...really?

Old 05-31-2010, 07:30 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:30 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.