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I'd start with the industries you identified as being the greatest offenders. Randomly do a bunch of them. |
And what are the penalties?
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Mucho dinero, indexed to the companies profits. Increasingly severely for repeat offenders.
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Why not jail time? They are directly aiding and abetting the destruction of the country (per people here). Those fines are just going to come out of consumer pockets eventually.
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Money just comes out of the company's bottom line. You need to hit the decision/policy makers with prison time. That way it's much more personal and they'll think twice about it.
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I'd be ok with that too.
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Local govts can take guys away from their multi week strip club/prostitution "undercover sting" operations to help out!
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shareholders responsible for corporate management actions? no. management goes to jail. simple. |
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It's a weird position many take. When you mention enforcing the laws against illegals you get things like "it seems awfully strange that few focus on business complicity in the illegal issue" and "The 800lb elephant that isn't being addressed here are the big businesses that profit from the cheap illegal labor.." Then when you say to enforce the labor/immigration laws against businesses who hire illegals, you get resistance to that, too, and a million reasons to not do so. |
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Well, I said to enforce them. And have penalties (jail time) suitable to the crime (hiring illegals = treason). I doubt you're going to get much support for that one.
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I don't see what these illegal immigrants (and I don't mean "displaced foreign travelers") ethics have in common with our grandparents, or great grandparents.
1. Our ancestors came here legally. 2. Our ancestors were proud to be Americans. They adopted American traditions did not expect America to cater to them. 3. Our ancestors learned the language of our country. They did not expect America to change to their languages. If we were not supporting our own citizens who are too lazy to work, they would do the jobs that these illegals are doing because doing a ****ty underpaid job beats being homeless and hungry. |
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And for those of you who appear to believe our Mexican guests are lazy, how 'bout you come up here for the fruit harvests in the Yakima area. Work along side those brown-faced families in triple-digit temps. It has been tried before, and those people are super-human in terms of their physical ability to delivery production in those conditions. But anyway, the real theme of this particular post is to communication my longstanding professional battle with the forces of commerce, at the legislative and the administrative government level, to pursue the protection of workers. Cheating workers is a side-benefit in the construction industry. A gentleman's game. A fun and entertaining and lucrative practice that almost never gets caught, and the penalties are laughable. When the subject comes up at the legislative branch, the Business Lobby absolutely CRUSHES any and all regulations like this (immigration). The fact remains that illegals come here for the money. For the jobs. And that works nicely for Business. And that is why we're wasting colossal money building silly fences that will not impact the inflow of cheap labor. |
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I suspect, truth be told, we all agree more than we disagree. I would hope that the unions would be strongly opposed to illegal immigration. I have spent my time digging ditches, washing dishes and doing landscaping as a youth. I went to school, got an education and moved on. Of course, I already spoke English. My best friends wife came on a student visa, learned English, got married and is now a tax paying citizen. Her brothers are illegal aliens, and she is none too happy with them, and their non-English speaking kids. It was funny to see little 4'10'' Claudia going after her her 6'2" brother when he said the wrong thing about her kids not speaking Spanish well enough.
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Todd, I knew you were kidding, I was being a bit facetious myself. |
All things being equal why do Corps/business hire illegals in the first place...U Boyz seem to agree that it is because they provide cheap labour. That means that native American labour is OVER PRICED. That means that U boyz are OVERPAID. Welcome to reality, Your not worth what your being paid, and business has known that for decades and has been moving off shore as a result of that reality. .
Further your not going to be able to maintain this fiction much longer...Middle Class..your all fking peasants as far as I can see...to ignorant to know your being led to the slaughter. |
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