Aothernother Fine Mess Waye Has Gotten Himself Into - Page 4

tabs · 09-30-2010, 10:57 AM

WAKE UP...the point I have been driving home is the BRAIN AND FUNCTION OF MEMORY IN RECOGNIZING PATTERNS...that is science hoss and unless you renounce and deny SCIENCE..you WILL HAVE TO RECOGNIZE you have been had...a sucker.

trader220 · 09-30-2010, 11:17 AM

I’ve been had?...... I am your employee? (what happened to your explanation of how I am an employee of yours?)

You pick off patterns in a ballgame, you can pick off the tell of the guy across the poker table from you, you can study the patterns in the migration of African sparrows and you can draw conclusions from those things. It’s a scientific fact you can study those things and draw opinions on the future.
As no reader here should be surprised you think that you can then predict the future, but in the end it’s no more than an opinion on the future and not a FACT.

On the other hand HISTORY has proven over and over that trying to time the patterns in the market is futile.
Which shockingly enough brings us to yet another massive contradiction of yours… on the one hand you’re screaming science as if you’re an expert on the human brain, then on the other hand you blab on about gut feelings.
Three cheers for the entertainment you bring!!

trader220 · 09-30-2010, 11:19 AM

Two questions still remain which you have thus far ducked like a champ.

1) How many futures did you buy at 1040 and actually put your money where your mouth is?
2) How am I an employee of yours?

Anyone? Bueller?

Rich76_911s · Rich76_911s's Garage

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Originally Posted by tabs

It is not how many futures I bought...but it how much money I have in the Stock Market...let me put it to you this way I live or die by the Stock Market...

Fortunatley I have hedged my bet over the years...with hard assets.

What it comes down to Tradder you are the employee, cause it is my money you are dealing with.

So I was right. Zero on the S&P's and Nothing of significance on the superbowl.

Two things of which you knew the outcome before either started and you did absolutely nada.

It's not how much money you have invested in the stock market that matters, its that you had a "guaranteed" profit in the S&P and you did NOTHING. There are 100's of ways you could have made millions many times over if you knew the market was going higher, and you sat there typing on the computer twiddling your thumbs. If you need help I'll introduce to a couple of ideas (for a fee of course).

Your actions mirror Waynes. He took profits off the table, and so did you. Only difference is Wayne never claimed to know what the organic market was going to do.

RWebb · RWebb's Garage

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Originally Posted by tabs

WAKE UP...the point I have been driving home is the BRAIN AND FUNCTION OF MEMORY IN RECOGNIZING PATTERNS...that is science hoss and unless you renounce and deny SCIENCE..you WILL HAVE TO RECOGNIZE you have been had...a sucker.

- you have no idea whatsoever what science is

of course, adding one count to the ignorance accumulation is not surprising, is it?

tabs · 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by trader220

Two questions still remain which you have thus far ducked like a champ.

1) How many futures did you buy at 1040 and actually put your money where your mouth is?
2) How am I an employee of yours?

Anyone? Bueller?

ZEARO FUTURE to be honest and asnswer your question. Howeger that is not the question to ask. The question to ask is did I have skin in the game..and the answer is yeah...did I shyte my pants and decide to pull out when the market was looking like it was breaking down ..No I stayed in the game. Why because my past experience of watching the market everyday told me that the mostly likelyt scenario was that the SP 500 was going to bounce off of 1040

Why does past experience ..not only mine but yours as well...count...because as I explained Brain funcion and memory as a function of pattern recognition.

What you don't get is the way i explained it to you was in my own language in my owqn terminlogy...If I had come up to you and had first explained this is about brain function yours and mine and the rest of the human races...U would of said yeah that makes sense...

You are NOT directly an employee of mine, but you are an employee of guys like me.

The reason why you were had..succkered in..is you didn't listen towhat I was saying...you didn't think about it.. you didn't give me the benefit of the doubt and even try to work out the problem .you just jumped into the fire..without thinking...Ohhh that sounds stupid so it must be...

I know a gal here in LV that walked into a Porsche dealer ship with 100K cash in her purse wanting to buy a Porsche that day..they wouldn't even give her a test drive because of the way she was dressed in blue jeans, sneakers and a pull over shirt..So appearences don't always match reality..

tabs · 09-30-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich76_911s

So I was right. Zero on the S&P's and Nothing of significance on the superbowl.

Two things of which you knew the outcome before either started and you did absolutely nada.

It's not how much money you have invested in the stock market that matters, its that you had a "guaranteed" profit in the S&P and you did NOTHING. There are 100's of ways you could have made millions many times over if you knew the market was going higher, and you sat there typing on the computer twiddling your thumbs. If you need help I'll introduce to a couple of ideas (for a fee of course).

Your actions mirror Waynes. He took profits off the table, and so did you. Only difference is Wayne never claimed to know what the organic market was going to do.

I don't gamble...and I have skin in the game everyday...and as such I can either shyte my pants AND pull my investment or I can stay in the game...I stayed in the game with MY MONEY because I knew the likely thing to happen was the SP500 was going to bounce off of 1040. Howe many time do I have to explaine it you BOYZ beofre you get the message.

einreb · 09-30-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs

a little slip of paper comes up from the subconscience goes ding

I have a sneaking suspicion that your market hunches are in your conscience, but the reason why you posted was from your subconscious.

Wayne's posts on his investing are interesting. I enjoy reading what 'real people' do and why they do it. I'm not saying that it applies here, but the right hand side of a head and shoulders looks like a 'trading range'.

tabs · 09-30-2010, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb

- you have no idea whatsoever what science is

of course, adding one count to the ignorance accumulation is not surprising, is it?

Of course one has to have an opinion in order to offer one..Then we have to care about your opinion..which from my past experince with you lacks credibility. So I have to discount your comments by about 95%..the 5% remaining is just to make sure that I don't miss a nugget of truth.

trader220 · 09-30-2010, 12:26 PM

Let me help you out here…

The brains ability to recognize patterns is a generally accepted fact. For example if I posted this…

A B A B A B….. You would say the next letter in that pattern is what?

History has also shown us that the patterns in the market are vastly more complex and the human brain even with the help of all of mankind’s best technology can not accurately predict the next days or next hours or next minute’s price action.

Do you know how we know this to be an absolute fact? If that ability existed the markets as we know them would cease to exist. If it were able to accurately predict the markets in a given time frame then you could essentially be the entire market in anything traded anywhere.

Now for the third time let’s try and get a few answers out of you about statements you made okay?

How many futures did you buy at 1040? The answer appears to be ZERO, despite the fact you knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that the market would rally from there and you could have made multi millions of dollars on a relatively small investment. Any comments you make about having “skin” in the game is irrelevant. I already showed you that claims about money, wealth and material goods on line are moot.

How am I your employee or now an employee of guys like you? I already told you I am 100% certain you have NO capital placed with my firm. I am also 100% certain that those who do are well researched and pay a fee for the privilege of placing capital with us. Can you present a single “fact” which would substantiate your claim that I somehow work for you or guys like you?

trader220 · 09-30-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs

Of course one has to have an opinion in order to offer one..Then we have to care about your opinion..which from my past experince with you lacks credibility. So I have to discount your comments by about 95%..the 5% remaining is just to make sure that I don't miss a nugget of truth.

Shocking... no one's opinion but yours counts man I am so surprised to see you post something like that.

tabs · 09-30-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by einreb

I have a sneaking suspicion that your market hunches are in your conscience, but the reason why you posted was from your subconscious.

Wayne's posts on his investing are interesting. I enjoy reading what 'real people' do and why they do it. I'm not saying that it applies here, but the right hand side of a head and shoulders looks like a 'trading range'.

It is just a bit more than the long term or short term memory..I just knew for whatever reason 1040 was going to be about it...and it was going to go back the other way...BTW..gut feeling has nothing to do with emotion..

However U Boyz want to rationalize it...go ahead..I don't care..I am on the record of calling it and you have to deal with that reality.

I have tried to explain it every way I can think of ..it ain't magic..it is just something human beings can do if they pay attention.. It is like ohh yeah that is what is going on..

RPKESQ · 09-30-2010, 12:58 PM

Come on!

Don't stop now............ I've got money on this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I need 1 more page to win.

Rot 911 · 09-30-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs

It is just a bit more than the long term or short term memory..I just knew for whatever reason 1040 was going to be about it...and it was going to go back the other way...BTW..gut feeling has nothing to do with emotion..
However U Boyz want to rationalize it...go ahead..I don't care..I am on the record of calling it and you have to deal with that reality.
I have tried to explain it every way I can think of ..it ain't magic..it is just something human beings can do if they pay attention.. It is like ohh yeah that is what is going on..

Well I am certainly curious as to why you don't act on these "gut feelings" and own the market?

scottbombedout · 09-30-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RPKESQ

Come on!

Don't stop now............ I've got money on this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I need 1 more page to win.

I'm sending Webby $5 too.

Tabs has taken a good licking, but he keeps coming back up for more....

trader220 · 09-30-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs

BTW..gut feeling has nothing to do with emotion..

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I am shocked another contradiction

tabs · 09-30-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by trader220

Let me help you out here…

The brains ability to recognize patterns is a generally accepted fact. For example if I posted this…

A B A B A B….. You would say the next letter in that pattern is what?

History has also shown us that the patterns in the market are vastly more complex and the human brain even with the help of all of mankind’s best technology can not accurately predict the next days or next hours or next minute’s price action.

Do you know how we know this to be an absolute fact? If that ability existed the markets as we know them would cease to exist. If it were able to accurately predict the markets in a given time frame then you could essentially be the entire market in anything traded anywhere.

Now for the third time let’s try and get a few answers out of you about statements you made okay?

How many futures did you buy at 1040? The answer appears to be ZERO, despite the fact you knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that the market would rally from there and you could have made multi millions of dollars on a relatively small investment. Any comments you make about having “skin” in the game is irrelevant. I already showed you that claims about money, wealth and material goods on line are moot.

How am I your employee or now an employee of guys like you? I already told you I am 100% certain you have NO capital placed with my firm. I am also 100% certain that those who do are well researched and pay a fee for the privilege of placing capital with us. Can you present a single “fact” which would substantiate your claim that I somehow work for you or guys like you?

I can not see all the bends in the river, nor all the sand bars...but I can and do see the direction the river is flowing in...

For simplicity let us just say that there are one he11 of a lot of tanactions and decisons made everyday, every hour, every minute. The complexity of which is unfathomable..The averages posted is a synthesis of all those trades...I think you will agree with this.

I think of the market as being organic or living enity because living flesh and blood SUBJECTIVE..emotional human beings are making the decisions or telling the comptuer when to execute those decisons..can you see it and do you agree.

Since these organic beings are making transactions whose collective synthesis is reflected in the averages being posted the averages are a snapshot of what this elephant beast for lack of a better term looks like at any given moment.

If you watch that elephant beast long enough you may begin to understand the habits and patterns of the beast if not the reasons why the elephant is doing those things.. So if you should see an elephant come up to a corner eveyday at 8 and turn right the next time you see that elephant come up to the corner which way do you think he will turn..that is not to say the elephant can not surprise you as it just might be his day off and insteadd of going to work he turns left and goes to the beach. But then next time you will factor in the day of the week as well and see if a pattern exists there.

I told you, you were a cliche and you are proving my point. I find your ability to think out of the box to be minimal.

tabs · 09-30-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by trader220

I am shocked another contradiction

Your mistake..I never said it was emotional..you just assumed that was what I meant...

AND to be fair..to you..I might not have clarified the point...

trader220 · 09-30-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs

Your mistake..I never said it was emotional..you just assumed that was what I meant...

AND to be fair..to you..I might not have clarified the point...

Wow good thing you said that who would have thought that your post..

Originally Posted by tabs
BTW..gut feeling has nothing to do with emotion..

was technically not emotional, I mean just because you used the word didnt mean you meant it right?

trader220 · 09-30-2010, 01:33 PM

I bid you adieu my new friend.
You steadfastly refuse to accept any facts other than your own opinions which you mistake as facts.

Just remember one thing… If any man, woman or machine could accurately predict and time the markets the markets themselves as we know them would no longer exist.