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the engineering, and permits to tie a hoist into his building will cost more than the $2k.
What are these permits you speak of? I thought he was simply trying to lift a piece of new equipment into his window.

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Old 10-27-2010, 04:35 PM
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Speaking of engineering and permits, what is the live load calc for the 2nd story floor?
Old 10-27-2010, 04:47 PM
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First, thanks for all the replies.

Sorry I wasn't more clear. When I said I wanted to build a crane, it will be an indoor crane and be akin to my rotisserie. Best I can describe it will be a typical engine lift with the legs rotated 180 and some mechanism for hauling up the goods. I pictured welding a winch to the boom and a pulley at the end of the boom. Weights would sit on the legs so it doesn't topple over.

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It's exactly 20 feet from the ground to the base of the window, window is 37 inches from floor. A forklift could work, rental place has 20 foot lifts and just need some way to receive it. One limiting factor is any equipment on the outside of the building has to pass through an 8 foot high tunnel.

Can't go up the stairs, press is too big and too heavy. Moving companies wouldn't touch it.

dtw is absolutely correct, I don't have the time to make this and renting a solution is better. BUT, building this now, it would save tons of time in the future in receiving and shipping goods. I could also bring the Ducati up top. I think an early 911 shell will also fit through the windows.

I'm considering something like a 1 or 2 ton electric hoist mounted onto the crane superstructure in some way.

No permits, this crane does not exist.
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Partial disassembly and reassembly?
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not really necessary but could be handy.
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Pictures would help..

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of what? the building?

here is the press.

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How much structure have you got above? Hang a piece of Ibeam up and get an overhead hoist setup.... Make it to where the hoist can be slid along the Ibeam and the Ibeam slid in and out the window....
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No. Whatever you're moving. It's the way I've gotten machines in my basement when size or weight is a problem.
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:43 PM
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got it.

the top carousel can be removed reducimg about 300 pounds BUT:

it must be refitted exactly as it was before removal

the control panel wiring goes through it and therefor I would have to disconnect and reconnect over 100 tiny wires that control the press

there is a brass bearing that fits over the center shaft which is precision fit. Talked with the factory, very very hard to get back on once off.
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How much structure have you got above? Hang a piece of Ibeam up and get an overhead hoist setup.... Make it to where the hoist can be slid along the Ibeam and the Ibeam slid in and out the window....
that my friend was my first thought. My second thought was tearing the roof apart and everything tumbling down. I will take some pics tomorrow of the roof structure.
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Shaun... Seriously get in touch with a sign guy.... They will understand what you are lifting, and should treat you a helluva lot better than a rigging co.
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I'll make some calls tomorrow, thanks.
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Sid's prolly got the best idea. They sometimes have to sling some ungainly signs..
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worst case you can build your own steel framework inside the bldg. - tie it into the bldg frame if you want - just make it strong enuff to foist your load, then hang your hoist off of that

strongly recommend that you make/buy something that can slide back & forth - not just go up & down
Old 10-27-2010, 06:13 PM
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it's always easy to get stuff in, think about getting it back out
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Sid's prolly got the best idea. They sometimes have to sling some ungainly signs..

yup... We carry a wide array of lifting slings on all of our trucks...
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If I was faced with such a situation at "my" shop, I no doubt would be rigging something up to get the job done. 2 ton rated 4 pulley block & tackle and 250' of new rope is the first thing that comes to mind.... probably would use my Audi to pull on the rope to hoist it up.
Fixed it for you Tim
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Fixed it for you Tim
While I am thoroughly disgusted by ever increasing governmental safety regulations, common sense and my sense of self preservation would obviously prevent me from trusting an Audi to perform such a task.
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Old 10-28-2010, 03:27 AM
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Rigging companies deliver forklifts on 'tilt-and-load' flat beds.

Truck and driver fee is usually $125/hr or so. Even with a four hour minimum....

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