can someone explain the california 10 day handgun wait to me?

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I thought you were talking about the guy who shot up the school in Stockton, because you said school kids in Stockton, my mistake.

The guy who killed 2 dozen in the SD McD's massacre was a welder who was despondent because he was turned down for a job. Friend of mine was the guy who turned him down.

He didn't like Mondays.
no wait, that was a girl shooting kids at an elementary school in san Diego. Sumthin in the water?

The silicon chip inside her head
Gets switched to overload
And nobody’s gonna go to school today
She’s gonna make them stay at home
And daddy doesn’t understand it
He always said she was good as gold
And he can see no reasons
'Cos there are no reasons
What reason do you need to be show-ow-ow-ow-own?

Tell me why
I don’t like Mondays
Tell me why
I don’t like Mondays
Tell me why
I don’t like Mondays
I wanna shoo-oo-woo-woo-woo-oot the whole day down

The Telex machine is kept so clean
And it types to a waiting world
And mother feels so shocked
Father’s world is rocked
And their thoughts turn to their own little girl
Sweet 16 ain’t that peachy keen
Now that ain’t so neat to admit defeat
They can see no reasons
'Cuz there are no reasons
What reasons do you need?
Oh Oh oh whoa whoa

Tell me why
I don’t like Mondays
Tell me why
I don’t like Mondays
Tell me why
I don’t like Mondays
I wanna shoo-oo-oo-woo-woo-oot
The whole day down, down, down, shoot it all down

And all the playing's stopped in the playground now
She wants to play with the toys a while
And school's out early and soon we'll be learning
And the lesson today is how to die
And then the bullhorn crackles
And the captain tackles
(With the problems of the how's and why's)
And he can see no reasons
'Cos there are no reasons
What reason do you need to die, die?
Oh Oh Oh

Tell me why
I don’t like Mondays
Tell me why
I don’t like Mondays
Tell me why
I don’t like
I don’t like (Tell me why)
I don’t like Mondays
Tell me why
I don’t like
I don’t like (Tell me why)
I don’t like Mondays
Tell me why
I don't like Mondays
I wanna shoo-oo-oo-woo-woo-woot the whole day down

[Head416]

10 day waiting period for all firearms purchases in CA, not just handguns.

Frequently Asked Questions - Public - Bureau of Firearms - California Dept. of Justice - Office of the Attorney General

But as said before, it's pointless after you already own a gun. But, how would they verify you're already a gun owner without registering every gun purchased and making that registration available to all FFLs in the state?

I guess that would make the waiting period the lesser of two evils.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I thought you were talking about the guy who shot up the school in Stockton, because you said school kids in Stockton, my mistake.

The guy who killed 2 dozen in the SD McD's massacre was a welder who was despondent because he was turned down for a job. Friend of mine was the guy who turned him down.

Didn't he use an AR-15? I thought that was the reason for the 10 round magazine.

[emcon5]

I would buy the "Coolong Off" thing if it was only for your first gun. If you aready own a gun, what logic is there to make you wait before buying another?

And this would almost be amusing, if it wasn't so stupid: I have a C&R FFL. I can order a rifle from any number of distributors and have it shipped directly to my house. But if I went to buy the same rifle at Big 5, I would have to wait 10 days.

[PropellerHead]

Haven't y'all seen the Simpsons episode where Homer wants a gun and is informed that he has to wait however many days:

"Ooh, but I'm mad now!"

I love that line......

[red-beard]

I had an English guy visiting me about 5 years ago. I took him out to the range and he fired a gun for the first time. I then took him to a local sporting goods store. We looked over a bunch of things. He asked how hard it was to buy one? I put down a credit card and proceeded to purchase one. Walked out 10-15 minutes later and we went back to the range and broke it in...

[strupgolf]

Ok, I'll play this game. Buy a gun. Wait ten days, get the gun. So what is the problem here? Lets move on to something really important.

[campbellcj]

Beyond the 10 day wait thing, as I recall there is also a no more than 1 purchase every 30 days limit. (That one may only pertain to handguns, but it is silly regardless.)

These rules cannot possibly have a benefit to society or any impact on true criminal sorts. All I can figure is they exist to penalize and discourage citizens, dealers and manufacturers.

But then we are attempting to apply actual logic to politicians' actions that defy normal logic.

[campbellcj]

Originally Posted by strupgolf

Ok, I'll play this game. Buy a gun. Wait ten days, get the gun. So what is the problem here? Lets move on to something really important.

It is not a "problem" for most of us. It is an infraction of our freedom and an unnecessary and illogical hassle imposed on us by the gub'mint. As far as I know, we never got an opportunity to vote on this nonsense either.

[campbellcj]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Didn't he use an AR-15? I thought that was the reason for the 10 round magazine.

More absolute nonsense legislation. You can buy a friggen duffel bag full of 10rd mags but you can't buy one 15rd mag. Gee, that makes sense.

[Rick Lee]

The way this BS started was with the Brady Law in 1994. It contained a federal five day wait, but also set up the National Instant Check System (NICS). The provision there was that once a state had the NICS online, they no longer had to abide by the five day wait. VA was the first state to have the NICS up and running and, IIRC, it was even before the five day federal wait went into effect. So VA never had to go by the federal waiting period. Of course, that outraged some of the anti's in the northern VA suburbs, so Arlington and Fairfax Counties and Alexandria City passed their own local waiting periods. This, of course, just drove business to Prince William and other counties with no waits and where buying a gun was cash and carry. VA later passed a state preemption law that did away with this BS. I've never lived anywhere that had a wait since then, so I imagine those places that still have them passed them around the time the federal law was to sunset about six yrs. ago.

In AZ they don't even have to runs a NICS check anymore if you have a CCW. You just hand them your license for them to verify the info you put on the 4473 and you walk out with the gun. If you don't have a CCW, it might take as long as 15 min. before you can leave and begin your crime spree. I bought a SIG at Cabela's and it was almost as fast as buying a pack of cigarettes.

[emcon5]

Let's see how that works for other fundamental rights.

Originally Posted by strupgolf

Ok, I'll play this game. Buy a book. Wait ten days, get the book. So what is the problem here? Lets move on to something really important.

Originally Posted by strupgolf

Ok, I'll play this game. Write a letter. Wait ten days, mail the letter. So what is the problem here? Lets move on to something really important.

Looks like you are in Indiana. So would you be OK with waiting 10 days in Gary if you wanted to go to Chicago?

[emcon5]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

The way this BS started was with the Brady Law in 1994.

California's waiting period predates Brady by a LONG time:

...beginning with one day for handguns in 1923, the California Legislature increased the handgun waiting period from one to three days in 1955, to five days in 1965, and to 15 days in 1975. The current wait is 10 days from AB 671, effective April 1, 1997.

[Rick Lee]

Ah, so the KA waiting period was the inspiration for the federal one. As goes KA, so goes the nation.

[Drisump]

Originally Posted by PropellerHead

Haven't y'all seen the Simpsons episode where Homer wants a gun and is informed that he has to wait however many days:

"Ooh, but I'm mad now!"

I love that line......

There were so many good quotes from that episode, they don't make em like that anymore. Such as "I don't have to be careful.... I have a gun."

[strupgolf]

I know the gov't is full of BS regulations, I'm just trying to make a funny. I wonder if Chicago has had a big decrease in deaths by guns since the ban. Anyone know?

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by speeder

They figure if you still want to kill the SOB after 10 days, might as well do it.

LOL! And pretty much true...

[pitargue]

I'm sure this is urban legend...

Quote from a customer at a gun store during the LA riots, "What do you mean I have to wait 10 days?!?! Isn't this America?"

[Rick Lee]

A waiting period has never stopped any crime. Anyone who is mad enough to shoot someone will certainly get that mad again once they have the gun. And why would anyone bother submitting to a background check and buy a gun in a store, which they plan to use in a crime unless they also planned to die in the attack? I don't really mind the background checks, as they sometimes weed out the extremely stupid criminals, but it's folly to think they prevent anyone from getting a gun who really wants one.