Rain results in California

[ossiblue]

Here's a shot of Laguna Canyon just after the recent rains. Laguna got over 9" of rain during the pre-Christmas storm resulting in this Porsche coming to rest in its new driveway.

[Schumi]

I'll take those Litronics if nobody gets em first....

[Heel n Toe]

Was it in that container, or are those containers that have been converted to "living quarters?"

[BeyGon]

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe

Was it in that container, or are those containers that have been converted to "living quarters?"

I doubt anyone in Laguna lives in one of those, they were probably filled with expensive antiques/art. If not, it was something else expensive.

[Noah930]

Then it wasn't the Boxster...

[ducking]

[BeyGon]

Originally Posted by Noah930

Then it wasn't the Boxster...

[ducking]

Got me thinking about the guys in Laguna that drive Boxsters.

(double ducking)

[artplumber]

Originally Posted by BeyGon

I doubt anyone in Laguna lives in one of those, they were probably filled with expensive antiques/art. If not, it was something else expensive.

Wouldnt something expensive be inside de house? Or have some sort of air control more complex than a vent? Or in something nicer/more permanent than a shipping container?

[BeyGon]

There are people with too much stuff, I know some of them, you probably do to, gotta keep the stuff someplace.

[Brando]

A buddy of mine lives in that area. She couldn't get to/from work or school due to closures. I haven't been down that way in a few months... Looks pretty bad.

[pwd72s]

Man, it's bad in areas down there....SoCal just not set up for Oregon winters. Seems to be an annual event. Summer fires, then winter mud slides.

[sammyg2]

Big area. lots of people, lots of homes, lots of cities.

Sure we have problems with flooding, hill slides, fires, etc but they are limited to a very small percentage of the area. It just seems like it all happens to everyone because of the news.
they try to make it look like all of So Cal was underwater when the vast majority of us just got a little damp and annoyed.

Basically it goes like this: People who bought houses sitting on the top of a hill or in the bottom of a canyon have to pay for their poor judgement.
The rest of us just go about our business.

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

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Basically it goes like this: People who bought houses sitting on the top of a hill or in the bottom of a canyon have to pay for their poor judgement.
The rest of us just go about our business.

actually, the rest of the popn. has to pay for it!

it is a subsidy to those who live in far, sprawled out areas that probably should not have eve had house built there anyway. as you correctly note, some areas are prone to fire (chaparral ecosystems burn pretty regularly) and/or are prone to slides (SoCal area has uplift of weakly "glued together" rocks, and they fall apart with little provocation)

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by RWebb

actually, the rest of the popn. has to pay for it!

it is a subsidy to those who live in far, sprawled out areas that probably should not have eve had house built there anyway. as you correctly note, some areas are prone to fire (chaparral ecosystems burn pretty regularly) and/or are prone to slides (SoCal area has uplift of weakly "glued together" rocks, and they fall apart with little provocation)

Ah, but this aint new awlins.
These people pay big $$$$$ for these houses, so they pay big property taxes. Much more than most of us pay for our mortgages.
They also pay through the nose for homeowner's insurance, so I'm not sure how we can say the rest of us are paying for them.

I live down in the flat land where homes are safe from all this stuff.
But if the prado dam ever let go, I'd end up in Huntington beach instead of Orange.
There are some risks no matter where we live.




The main point was this: There are millions of these homes in So Cal. Many millions.
OK, so 4 or 5 houses got hit with a mud slide and 40 or 50 got burned up last year and the year before the numbers were much higher.
Folks naturally assume that they are representative of the houses in the area. They are not.
When you look at the percentages of homes that get threatened, it's not even a rounding error.

That vast, vast majority of people who live in these 'spensive canyons or hills can live there all their lives and not have a bit of worry.
The threat is exaggerated, the perception is not the reality. As long as you are not the unlucky one.

[RWebb]

I got your point.

Their property taxes may or may not cover the cost.... and, of course, others with high value homes in low risk areas are also paying large prop. taxes.

BTW - how is your mushroom farm/carpet doing?

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by RWebb

I got your point.

Their property taxes may or may not cover the cost.... and, of course, others with high value homes in low risk areas are also paying large prop. taxes.

BTW - how is your mushroom farm/carpet doing?

LOL, i put down beach towels and walked on em and it soaked up all that flood debris
It was dry the next morning.

I did some more checking on the great flood of 1938 (before they built the prado dam, sepulveda dam, hansen dam, and whittier narrows dam).
At the time it was the 5th largest flood in US history, 115 people died and the flood affected over 20 cities. 5,601 houses were destroyed. If it happened the same way today it would be closer to a million.
At it's peak it flowed 580,000 cubic feet of water per second.

Here's some pics that were local to me:
Buena Park, near knotts berry farm:


A couple from Anaheim



One from Fountain Valley, about 20 miles downstream from where Prado dam is now:


Here's one from Long Beach:

[RWebb]

I hope they've kept up the inspections of those dams...

[RWebb]

BTW - a friend of mine in Mini-Soda told me he had a roof leak and has ice-sickles in his attic

[Flieger]

Come on, we all know it was the stupid guy at the top of the hill who over-watered his lemon grove.It couldn't possibly be that we built houses at the base of a landslide area that has been active for eons.