I Pad 16GB or 32GB?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by red-beard

I was just checking out the iPad 64GB

$699 - iPad
$ 39 - Case
$ 29 - Dock
$ 29 - VGA Adapter
$ 29 - Camera connector

$825

HP Slate 500

$799 - Slate
Includes case, docking unit with built in HDMI connector and extra USB slots
Main unit is:
64GB SSD
2 GB RAM
Windows Pro 7 (tablet control and voice command are part of Win 7 Pro)
Wifi
SD Card slot (32GB of disk expansion)
1 USB slot
1024x768
Bluetooth
Front and rear facing cameras
2 core 1.8MHZ Intel Atom processor

I don't think I'll buy an iPad 64GB. Even the 16GB seems too expensive. The only thing that seem better from the iPad specs is battery life is about double.

It sounds like the Slate, and what you were looking for was essentially a laptop replacement. I use a desktop at the house, and have a company laptop, what I wanted was basically a huge version of my phone without the ability to make calls. I use my ipad to read books, surf the web, play simple games, watch movies (including output to a TV), occasionally email and/or IM, for that, the ipad is great. I got it last Aug. I think that within a year there will be some really rocking Android based devices that will be better and more enjoyable for me, but you can pretty much always wait " in 2 years, X will be out and will blow it away" which is always true.

Originally Posted by red-beard

And as far as user experience, I can do a lot more with the Slate 500. A LOT more!

Originally Posted by island911

what about remote desktop? . .. can you use the ipad to run your home machine, remotely?

..that's one of the things I like about my little old windows tablet.

Absolutely there is fully featured RDP for iPads AND iPhones. I worked with a guy at my last job who could VPN into our network from his iPhone and then RDP into servers and work/fix stuff when he was on call, all from his iPhone.

I'm absolutely NOT an Apple iStuff fanboy. I like my iPad, but I'm not completely infatuated. Frankly, I am more of an Android fanboy and wish there had be a really great Android based alternative, but there wasn't and there still isn't so instead of waiting for 1-2 years for that to materialize, I got the iPad which is great for what I need. The battery life is really nice too. That's the one place where I expect the Android devices to fall down compared to the iPad.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by island911

I'll take that as a 'no.'

And are you saying that if someone wanted to run photoshop, or video editing, they would do that on their ipad? . . .the ipad is just like a workstation.

tablet != workstation.

Good grief.

Wait, let me fix it for you

. . .the civic is just like a GT3.

. . .the hamburger is just like a filet mignon.

. . .the wave in a lake is just like a wave in Hawaii.

[island911]

Originally Posted by jyl

Suffice to say that, if island made the product decisions at Apple, the company would not have any of the hit products that it has. I've never seen someone be so consistently wrong on so many products.

Wow, personal attack because I faulted your love?

And apparently you believe that if the ipad had a more trim bezel, it would have failed. Or, if it were the pocketable size of the Samsung tab it would have failed. Or, if it ran OSx it would have failed. Or, if it had an integral kickstand it would have failed.

yeah, if I made product decisions...

btw I would have Never had a bare antenna at a touch point. ... idiots

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by masraum

It sounds like the Slate, and what you were looking for was essentially a laptop replacement. I use a desktop at the house, and have a company laptop, what I wanted was basically a huge version of my phone without the ability to make calls. I use my ipad to read books, surf the web, play simple games, watch movies (including output to a TV), occasionally email and/or IM, for that, the ipad is great. I got it last Aug. I think that within a year there will be some really rocking Android based devices that will be better and more enjoyable for me, but you can pretty much always wait " in 2 years, X will be out and will blow it away" which is always true.

The Slate is definitely envisioned for a different market. It is sold by the Business Division of HP. I wasn't looking for a Laptop replacement, but a netbook replacement. And it is.

We gave away one of our netbooks to a family member. I still need my Notebook for serious work. But for walking around mobile computing, the Slate is Slick.

Funny, I don't understand why Jobs hates Netbooks so much.

[jyl]

I guess I could have not used your name/handle, but that wouldn't make your track record any better.

[jyl]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Funny, I don't understand why Jobs hates Netbooks so much.

That's easy. Low-priced commodity market, no room for AAPL to earn big profit margins. When things are cheap and standardized, AAPL loses.

[island911]

Originally Posted by jyl

I guess I could have not used your name/handle, but that wouldn't make your track record any better.

Uhmm... okay.

so, do you have a better "track record"?

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by jyl

That's easy. Low-priced commodity market, no room for AAPL to earn big profit margins. When things are cheap and standardized, AAPL loses.

Yeah, so WE lose...

[porsche4life]

iLand why do you bother with these threads? He wasnt asking why you think the iPad sucks.... He was asking how much memory he needs...

[porsche4life]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Yeah, so WE lose...

Can you blame them? It doesn't fit their business model... They aren't in the business of helping you, they are in the business of making money.... They are VERY good at making money....

[jyl]

Originally Posted by island911

Uhmm... okay.

so, do you have a better "track record"?

Where Apple products are concerned, no-one can compete with you for a perfect record of wrong bets . . . Doesn't it embarass you at least a little? As a packaging engineer, aren't electronic devices supposed to be sort of in your area of expertise?

[island911]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

iLand why do you bother with these threads? He wasnt asking why you think the iPad sucks.... He was asking how much memory he needs...

like so many OT threads, this one answered his Q and went on to discuss alt. soln's. As Red points out the State gives great price/performance . But, since the OP just needs web /email I suggested one of the less expensive devices.

btw Where did I say ipads Suck?

[island911]

Originally Posted by jyl

Where Apple products are concerned, no-one can compete with you for a perfect record of wrong bets . . . Doesn't it embarass you at least a little? As a packaging engineer, aren't electronic devices supposed to be sort of in your area of expertise?

okay I'll bite - since you obviously really want to tell me. - just what have I been so wrong about? ...specifically.