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Spoon Etiquette

My wife is involved in the acting community here in Houston. A friend of hers needed a location to shoot a "webisode" for an ongoing youtube production, and my wife volunteered our home. Sorry no porn, I did ask though.
Anyway, on Saturday a group of three came over to scout the location. One of the group was an 18 year veteren police officer. He shoots video as a hobby. The cop had a number of items that he was carrying, including a gun.
He put his gun on the kitchen counter. They begin thier meeting and continue about thier blah blah blahing. My wife during the course of the meeting goes into the kitchen finds the gun, picks it up and brings it back out not realizing it was real. It was a murder mystery plotline and she thought it was a prop.
When she went back into the dining room with the gun, the LEO took it from her and still did not tell her it was real. He set it on a nearby table instead.
I was upstairs with our 7 y/o so I did not get to see any of this. My wife says that he only put the gun away when he realized that there were children in the house.

Pretty crazy, what do ya'll think.

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Old 01-24-2011, 08:11 PM
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Hmmm thats pretty stupid of the Leo. But to be honest if I didnt know there were kids there I would be tempted to leave it on the counter.

Idk, thats a tough one.
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I wouldn't leave my cell phone on a counter much less a spoon.. Pretty lame gun handling skills..
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I think that he's sloppy!
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Mistake #1 - Leaving a firearm ion the counter where others could handle it
Mistake #2 - Picking up a firearm and assuming it wasn't real/loaded/potentially deadly

Very sloppy form for the LEO, but I've seen similar behavior first-hand...
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Since she thought it was a prop I'm glad your wife didn't try to shoot a few 'blanks' at the assembled group. Perhaps a short course in gun safety would be a good thing for her.
Taught by someone other than said policeman.
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Since she thought it was a prop I'm glad your wife didn't try to shoot a few 'blanks' at the assembled group. Perhaps a short course in gun safety would be a good thing for her.
Taught by someone other than said policeman.
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It's really surprising that the cop would be that thick headed. Unless he was just showing off, or likes the attention that he gets by leaving it laying around.
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i wouldn't leave my cell phone on a counter much less a spoon.. Pretty lame gun handling skills..
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He should have left it in the car or left it concealed.

I'd have a talk with him if he is going to be coming over often.
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He should have left it in the car or left it concealed.
Big +1, taking it out and putting it on the counter is just weird.
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The cop is an idiot.
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Another ironic detail emerged this morning. He told my wife that he is part of a training group teaching about the importance of always carrying and being hyperalert to ones surroundings as it relates to concealed carry.
I was pretty flabergasted that he felt the need to carry into my home. Not much chance for gunplay in the house.
Would you carry into a home, do you tell somebody if you are carrying?
My wife says after picking up the gun she was waving it around like a Three Stooges episode. Thankfully she did not shoot herself or any of us.
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Wrong for many reasons... expletive.

He must crave attention. Even an officer that graduated at the bottom of his class from the accademy with the lowest test scores in the country knows:

Hot stove bad. Knife sharp. Don't put your loaded gun on a counter in stranger's house full of people and walk out of the room.

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This is not an issue of gun etiquette. Gun etiquette is when you come into someone’s house while you are carrying a concealed weapon and you politely advise the homeowner so that they know there’s a gun in their home. Further gun etiquette would require the gun owner to respect the homeowner’s wishes as to whether the gun can come into the house and how it should be handled if it does come into the house.

This is an issue of gun safety. It is suicidaly dangerous for a cop to deliberately disarm himself and leave his weapon unsecure. If cops want to carry at all times on the theory that they’re always on duty and have to be able to respond to any situation, fine. Then they need the gun on them at all times. Casually disarming himself makes a mockery of the claim that he needs to be armed at all. Second, you NEVER leave a weapon unsecured in any environment, let alone a private residence with men women and children coming and going. On top of this is the idiocy of leaving the gun in the open where it would be reasonable to assume that it must be a prop, both because it’s a play rehearsal and because no one could be so stupid that they would leave an entire holster and loaded gun on someone else’s kitchen table. This ignores the whole issue of the kitchen table. I mean, could there be a more unsafe place to stash a gun? No one should ever cross the muzzle of the gun, whether it’s holstered or not, loaded or unloaded. Anyone walking through the room would have had the gun barrel pointing at them as they crossed the room.

In almost any police department voluntarily disarming yourself and losing possession of your weapon would be grounds for termination if found out. In practice cops cover or each other so they almost never get found out, but this cop is criminally stupid and should never be trusted with a gun in any situation.
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