Late SUV from the big three

[kaisen]

Example:

Here's a 2007 GMC Denali AWD currently offered by GMAC in MN.
Lifelong Hawaii car, no paintwork, NAV, DVD, power folding center buckets, split fold third seats, 35K miles
Graded 4.0 of 5.0 in condition (clean)
They estimate it will bring $29,800 wholesale

6.2L pushrod aluminum V8 uses timing chain
380 hp @ 5700 rpm
417 ft-lbs @ 4300 rpm
EPA rated 12 mpg city / 18 mpg freeway

[EarlyPorsche]

GL450. Its a real nice vehicle. Unbelievably high MPG's and the quietest smoothest ride I've experienced. NOT boaty at all, just a smooth air ride. All wheel independent. Made right here in America. Oh and did I forget the sound of the Mercedes V8 engine

[kaisen]

Originally Posted by EarlyPorsche

GL450. Its a real nice vehicle. Unbelievably high MPG's and the quietest smoothest ride I've experienced. NOT boaty at all, just a smooth air ride. All wheel independent. Made right here in America. Oh and did I forget the sound of the Mercedes V8 engine

Basically a stretched ML with airmatic air ride.

Example:

Here's a 2007 Mercedes Benz GL450 4Matic currently offered by Mercedes Benz Financial in CA (there are a bunch there next week).
Lifelong CA car, no paintwork, NAV, center bench, split fold third seats, 56K miles
Graded 3.8 of 5.0 in condition (above average)
They estimate it will bring $30,600 wholesale

4.7L DOHC aluminum V8 uses timing chain
335 hp @ 6000 rpm
339 ft-lbs @ 3000 rpm
EPA rated 13 mpg city / 17 mpg freeway

[speeder]

Originally Posted by EarlyPorsche

GL450. Its a real nice vehicle. Unbelievably high MPG's and the quietest smoothest ride I've experienced. NOT boaty at all, just a smooth air ride. All wheel independent. Made right here in America. Oh and did I forget the sound of the Mercedes V8 engine

Tell me about the "unbelievably high MPGs". 17 mpg highway is unbelievable?

Don't get me wrong, it's a nice SUV. It's just that I'm driving a V-8 Touareg right now and it's about $20 a day if I don't go far from home and light-foot it. And city MPG is all that matters to me. 99%+ of my driving is on surface streets.

[dondarnell]

Originally Posted by Rick V

You will be seriously disappointed in anything from Detroit, since you have many years on a LC. GM suv's have way too much Isuzu, in them, Fords are too dependent on oil weights, and Dodge still has trans issues on anything below a 3/4 ton.
JMO, stick with what has served you well.

Really? I don't think you know what you are talking about .

[Rick V]

Really? I don't think you know what I have been doing for the last few decades to support myself.
I also stopped buying into the concept of the big three building things that they say I want. Cheap plastic, ugly designs, and built in obsolescent. But that is another thread.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by dondarnell

Really? I don't think you know what you are talking about .

I love a well supported argument.

[fred cook]

I currently have a 2003 Ford Excursion w/the 6.0 Diesel engine. At approx. 130k the only mechanical problem required having the turbo removed and cleaned of carbon build up. On the highway it gets about 21 mpg and in town about 16 -17 mpg. A great vehicle, one that I will never sell as there is simply no replacement for it. I also have a 2006 Ford F150 pickup that I bought used about 2 years ago. Again, no mechanical problems at all! Of course it only has about 48k miles so far. The new Ford Explorer is built on the Taurus chassis and is much lighter and fuel efficient than the last model. It also is supposed to get much better fuel mileage. As long as the Ford Motor Company continues to build quality vehicle such as these, there is no reason for me to have any interest in a Japanese or Korean built vehicle. Oh yes, I also have a 1980 911SC coupe, but I was talking about normal mortals vehicles, not the chariots of the gods!

[dondarnell]

Originally Posted by Rick V

Really? I don't think you know what I have been doing for the last few decades to support myself.
I also stopped buying into the concept of the big three building things that they say I want. Cheap plastic, ugly designs, and built in obsolescent. But that is another thread.

I'm guessing that you spend your time trying to install izuzu parts on suburbans.

[Rick V]

I refuse to work on domestics, I have better things to do with my time. BTDT. I make my living working on Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes.

[dondarnell]

Originally Posted by Rick V

I refuse to work on domestics, I have better things to do with my time. BTDT. I make my living working on Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes.

Why do you hate America ?

[9dreizig]

I've got 260k on my Tahoe, has a few things that need attention but for the most part it's been flawless. I'd buy another in a heartbeat. I still take it on occassion 500 miles in each direction to UT to hunt and ski...

[Rick V]

I am as red white and blue as they come, I am just not going to give my hard earned money for a vehicle that is substandard.
Domestic vehicles are sub standard, and have been for a long time. Too bad, other then the greed factor there is no reason anybody should be out producing us, in quality or quantity.
To say I hate America is as far off base as you can possibly be.

[kaisen]

Originally Posted by Rick V

I am as red white and blue as they come, I am just not going to give my hard earned money for a vehicle that is substandard.
Domestic vehicles are sub standard, and have been for a long time. Too bad, other then the greed factor there is no reason anybody should be out producing us, in quality or quantity.
To say I hate America is as far off base as you can possibly be.

You make your living fixing German cars when they break....... you'd have no work if they were flawless. So your position on American vehicles is hypocritical, at best.

[dondarnell]

Originally Posted by Rick V

I am as red white and blue as they come, I am just not going to give my hard earned money for a vehicle that is substandard.
Domestic vehicles are sub standard, and have been for a long time. Too bad, other then the greed factor there is no reason anybody should be out producing us, in quality or quantity.
To say I hate America is as far off base as you can possibly be.

The objective data is pretty conclusive. Domestics by far lead in quality and utility in large trucks and SUVs.

[Rick V]

Okay instead of polluting the OP's thread (for which I do apologize) Just start another one to beat on me.
My response will wait until tomorrow, I am heading to bed. 4am comes way too soon.

[dd74]

Used turbo diesel VW or Mercedes, preferably a 320 or 350 CDI will get you all the power you need and good mpg.

Otherwise, I know of a fully-loaded 2001 Denali with 11K miles for sale. PM me if you're interested.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by dondarnell

Why do you hate America ?

Rofl. Considering that many "domestics" are made in Mexico and Canada, and many "imports" are made in America, perhaps you should temper your flag waving with some reality.

[speeder]

The fact of the matter is that the Big 3 make really good trucks and SUVs for the most part, especially GM. I'm sure that someone can come up with a lemon story to refute me but there are 100 stories like Todd's 260k mile Tahoe for every junk story. Suburbans and other Chevy trucks seem to run forever.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by dd74

Used turbo diesel VW or Mercedes, preferably a 320 or 350 CDI will get you all the power you need and good mpg.

Otherwise, I know of a fully-loaded 2001 Denali with 11K miles for sale. PM me if you're interested.

Only 11,000 miles? Wow. You have a PM.