Spoon Safe

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

I'm looking at the Liberty models. Any others to take a look at?

MotoSook · 02:22 PM

Not a Liberty but I just bought a 26 gun safe from Menards for $599 minus $100 rebate. It's branded "Honeywell" but upon reading the manual, I see it is simply Honeywell licensed and a California company has it made in China from the look of the manual.

It's still a heck of a safe though 30 minutes at 1200-1400 F. The thing has more than enough bolts to prevent opening. It's electronic which I'm not 100% about, but it was cheap enough.

You don't have Menards in Houston, but you might be able to find the same safe for $599 or less at a retailer.

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

I can get a Cannon through Costco, but it is a 30 minute safe. I was looking at the 75 minute (compact) Liberty.

targa911S · 02-28-2011, 02:27 PM

get them to throw in free delivery. mine weighs 800 lbs. It took four of us to get it down the stairs to the work shop. Prolly how I got my hernia, but that is a different thread.

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

The Liberty safes include curb delivery, which is OK. I really don't want them to know exactly where it will be located.

Anyone have any suggestions on a real world comparison of 30 minute vs. 75 minute safes?

I can save about 1/2 with a 30 minute safe. Is 30 enough?

azasadny · azasadny's Garage

I have a Liberty safe that I bought at a local Gander Mountain about 5 years ago. I paid $150 to have the $800 safe delivered and 3 guys with straps brought it down the stairs into the basement. I put it on a furniture dolly so I can move it and keep it off the floor. It's a very nice safe and I haven't had any problems with it.

Jim Bremner · 02-28-2011, 04:13 PM

Watch craigs list.

I picked up a 57x42x30 Mosler safe with a 1 hour rating for $400 I've added MORE plate steel to the outside, repainted it and made te interior pretty plush for under $700. It's in the 2,200# range!

I saw a 72x30x28 T15 safe sell for $700 I wish I would have snatched it up!

If you're willing to spend time look for companies going out of biz. Anchor blue just went toes up and they sold off some safes that where only 40" tall inside for $200 each. I was going to pick one up for a ammo bunker but I had too many things do do.

I was going to do a thread on mine but I don't want all of the details on the web.

If I had GOOD $$$ I would buy a Sturdy. they're not pretty but I would trust what he builds!

id10t · 04:16 PM

How well is your local fire department funded? Where will it be located - is it a more likely place for a fire to start to to experience an extended hot burn (other fuels around)?

I'd go more with theft rating (both for b&e and having the bad half of the local football team tote it back up the stairs or whatever) than fire rating

Jim Bremner · 04:18 PM

SAFE - MUTUAL FIRE SAFE - Rolling

not mine. Mine's bigger

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bfs/2232304464.html

targa911S · 02-28-2011, 04:21 PM

I recently had to do a reburbishing bid on 30 guns that were in a home fire and in a safe. Although they were not cooked per se smoke did get in some how maybe from the heat cooking the carpeting inside. I made an interesting observation though. The guns that were just in the safe and not in sleeves or soft cases were all rusted from the smoke. No real wood damage which surprised me,. Smoke has a lot of moisture in it and I'm sure the carpeting inside created some pretty acrid smoke.. All of them needed to be reblued and some of the pitting was deep. However the ones that were in soft cases and silicone treated sleeves were just fine, some smoke residue but no damage at all. I now have all my guns in soft cases inside my safe.

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

I found this company that manufacturers in Houston

Gun Safes and gun vaults by Sportsman Steel Safe Company

They do a jigsaw door with 2 Palusol Gaskets.

Jim Bremner · 02-28-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard

i found this company that manufacturers in houston

gun safes and gun vaults by sportsman steel safe company

they do a jigsaw door with 2 palusol gaskets.

please check bbb and search calguns.net

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

Geez that was brutal!

MotoSook · 02-28-2011, 05:55 PM

I'm more worried about theft than fire. If I was inclined I'd build a closet and line the inner and outer wall with a couple layers of cement board, mud+paint and add a steel door. That will add a lot of time before the fire gets to the safe.

Jim Bremner · 02-28-2011, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Soukus

I'm more worried about theft than fire. If I was inclined I'd build a closet and line the inner and outer wall with a couple layers of cement board, mud+paint and add a steel door. That will add a lot of time before the fire gets to the safe.

I hope that I can build my next house. It will have a vault

Jim Bremner · 02-28-2011, 08:13 PM

This isn't how it looks today

azasadny · azasadny's Garage

Very nice! Many folks don't consider how important the location of their safe is, especially in case of a fire. If the safe is on the 2nd floor, during a fire, the floors can/will collapse and the safe will fall and everything will get severely damaged or destroyed. I put our safe in the basement, but then you risk water damage and moisture. I have a dry basement, but I also have a dehumidifier in the safe. The basement floor drain is 3 ft away from the safe.

Porsche-O-Phile · Porsche-O-Phile's Garage

Quote:

I'm more worried about theft than fire. If I was inclined I'd build a closet and line the inner and outer wall with a couple layers of cement board, mud+paint and add a steel door. That will add a lot of time before the fire gets to the safe.

This is very similar to what I'm doing - add some reinforcing mesh between two layers of cement board (not structural, it adds to security in case someone tries to bust through the wall), reinforced steel door frame, deadbolts and alarms/monitoring. Don't forget to do the floor & ceiling too.

From the outside it looks like just a closet, but it would take someone an awful long time to get in there (and they'd probably set off an alarm in the process).

If you're getting a premanufactured safe, I'd use epoxy anchors to physically attach it to the basement floor slab. Otherwise a team of 4-5 guys could just take the whole thing and walk off with it - not suPer common, but it happens.

UconnTim97 · UconnTim97's Garage

I was just shopping for a spoon safe last night as well and thought I would ask the Pelican braintrust for advise and I find this thread when I got home.

Couldn't ask for better timing. I don't need anything as big and great as the ones shown above, as I am only shopping for something more compact for a few hand spoons.

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

Tim,

I'm looking for a "compact" unit because I don't have that many utensils and I want it to fit in an odd corner space. Some of the small Stack-on unit would be fine except they have no fireproofing. Anything would be better than nothing.

But these days I prefer to buy the thing that is going to last. I like the idea of building a vault, but I don't have enough stuff to worry about that. Next house will have a concrete vault.