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If the Williams Cleaner Cartridge didn't work, why was it's manufacture continued thru the war? As mentioned earlier, there were at least 5 different versions made so one must assume that there was at least some merit to the design/use. A friend of mine who is very much into black powder and CW reinactments actually makes his own cleaner cartridges and uses them when at the range. Usually, if something just doesn't work, it goes away and is never heard from again.
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Revolution?
Who said anything about a revolution? That is another whole discussion!!
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Because the south were also called "Rebels".....
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Once automatic weapons became reliable (Maxim) and plentiful (Germany pre WW I) the day of successful massed infantry attacks was over. Machine guns could be deployed faster, cheaper and in more places than artillery. Artillery did rule the battlefield until late in WW II on the Western Front. It always ruled the battlefield on the Eastern Front in both world wars. And please let us not just repeat the American myth POV that we were the dominate force in Europe in WW II. The Russians killed 4 times as many Germans than we did and faced several times the numbers of German than we ever did. The largest European battle that the US participated in was the Battle of the Bulge. It doesn't even rank in the top 10 battles in the European theater. What the US lost in the battle over 40 days was what the Germans lost every 2 weeks on the Eastern Front. From 1941 to 1945 Eastern Front major battles involved 50 to 100 divisions each on both sides. The entire German Army in the Western Front was often less than 20 divisions, many of them on rest and refit from the Eastern front. The Russians had beaten the Germans after Stalingrad in early 1943. After Kursk in July of 1943, the Germans were never able to launch any large scales attacks and were in steady retreat until the end in Berlin (which the Russians did). Russian productivity closely matched American productivity from 1942 on. The most produced tank was Russian. The most produced aircraft was Russian. The most produced artillery pieces were Russian.
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Yep and the northern soldiers were called "Yanks" or "Blue Bellies". So how does "REBELS" equal "Revolution"? Seems to be a non-sequeter to me.
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Ah the idjut de troll is back......stick yer revisionist crap in a sock.
I hear the Russians made a special tank for export. The French model had back up lights, 12 reverse gears and little white pop up surrender flags..... The model was such a success, the design was incorporated into the T-72 used in the middle east by Arabic nations in the actions against Israel.....
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Like that was a surprise.............................. ![]() These kill figures and German order of Battle statistics are taught at West Point. You might want to actually learn so history from a different source than the tripe you have been regurgitating.
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I'm not entirely certain, but I think Jr's first repeating rifle for Winchester was the '86. It's vertical sliding locking block was far superior to the old toggle link '73, a derivative of the Henry. I believe John Moses also designed the '92 and '94 Winchesters. The '92 was a pistol cartridge length action meant to replace the '73, and we all know about the '94 and the introduction of smokeless in the thutty thutty. I think Chuck Connors carried a '92, but don't quote me on that. Oh, and by the way, here is my official black powder match shooting hat: ![]()
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battle casualties were also Russian. That's one record that I would not want to own!
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Yeah, but the word "Secession" just seems to roll off the tongue! Whatever you choose to call the years between 1860 and 1865, it was a bloody mess!
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The Germans were not beaten by the battle of Stalingrad...although it was a major loss on a titanic scale. As the Germans still had the where with all to conduct a major offensive operation and that was Kursk. If they had done what Manstein advocated they could have really thwarted Russian offensives. (Manstein was the General who suggested the Kursk operation, but his conception was to launch it in the EARLY spring of 1943 and NOT turn it into the extravaganza that Hitler did by delaying it until the summer of 43). That operation was what put the nails in the Germans coffin on the Eastern front, not Stalingrad. Then one comes to the turning of the tide where shear numbers of men and material were beginning to overwhelm the Germans by the beginning of 1943. So yeah the Germans were pretty much done by that time. It just isn't quite the way RPK likes to present it though. One can say with confidence that it was the American arsenal of Democracy that really won the war...good old American mfg...it provided the material to fight a two Theater war.. The USA did supply a lot of Trucks to the Russians and without those trucks they would have had to divert tank production to trucks...
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If we aren't restricted to Europe, but include the African and Pacific theaters, I can understand the US fighting forces of the time attaining a status RPKESQ would find mythical. We sure didn't go it alone, but nobody carried our freight.
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