Would like to build a man-cave.... costs?

[motion]

No, beyond city limits. I have to perc for the county is all.

[RWebb]

not much to worry about then

we do of course expect pics of the entire build...

I think MT 930 lives in MT and at least one other Pelican.

[lendaddy]

Originally Posted by motion

Well, I could'nt really give a rat's ass about resale value.... regarding permits, I remember when I was looking for land in this area. I asked my realtor about the permit process and how difficult/long it would take (being from SoCal). He looked at me like I was some kind of alien and said: "Its your gawdamm land, you do whatever you want with it". Yes, this is Montana

Beautiful

[sc_rufctr]

Log cabin rejection...

[turbo6bar]

Originally Posted by motion

Well, I could'nt really give a rat's ass about resale value.... regarding permits, I remember when I was looking for land in this area. I asked my realtor about the permit process and how difficult/long it would take (being from SoCal). He looked at me like I was some kind of alien and said: "Its your gawdamm land, you do whatever you want with it". Yes, this is Montana

Haha, that's awesome.

Definitely consider in slab heating. If you wanted to go crazy, get a wood/pellet fired boiler and heat your house and cave. If you plan to work on your toys in the winter, I think a heated slab is the cat's meow. Put foam under the slab and along the edges to minimize the heat loss.

If I get really comfy on my dual sport, I'll hop up there next summer. I don't do drywall, roofing, or carpet, and am not crazy about placing concrete. Otherwise, I'm game.

[maxnine11]

The in-floor heating suggestions are spot on.

Bikes or vehicles in long term storage require a constant temperature to prevent corrosion of non-protected surfaces.
Without temperature control (heat source and insulation) the air will warm up quickly during the day, but the metal mass of the vehicles will stay cold much longer. This causes the moisture in the air to condense on the cooler metal parts. Recipe for rust.
Besides, it will be the bad weather - non riding days when you will seek refuge in the 'cave'. Nice to go into a relatively warm place to polish, tune, admire, etc.

[Tim Hancock]

My shop is 50 x 100...... A couple airplanes eat up a good chunk of it, but no matter how much space you think you will be happy with, you will always want more.

I spend time in my man cave nearly every day of the year and when "my" friends come over, they always head straight to the shop vs checking at the house first. IOW, plan for TV, internet, bathroom, fridge etc.

My shop is sectioned via internal garage doors into one large main room and 3 smaller rooms (car repair/paint booth bay... general work shop.... office w/ bathroom) All rooms have separate heaters so that I can keep the big room at 40-45 in the winter and the workshop at 70. Having the sectioned off rooms is nice because the majority of the shop can be kept as a squeaky clean "show room" yet you still have workshop rooms you can get dirty/dusty.

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by motion

Well, I could'nt really give a rat's ass about resale value.... regarding permits, I remember when I was looking for land in this area. I asked my realtor about the permit process and how difficult/long it would take (being from SoCal). He looked at me like I was some kind of alien and said: "Its your gawdamm land, you do whatever you want with it". Yes, this is Montana

In that case jump the home theater budget to $50K

[john70t]

Originally Posted by maxnine11

The in-floor heating suggestions are spot on.

Bikes or vehicles in long term storage require a constant temperature to prevent corrosion of non-protected surfaces.
Without temperature control (heat source and insulation) the air will warm up quickly during the day, but the metal mass of the vehicles will stay cold much longer. This causes the moisture in the air to condense on the cooler metal parts. Recipe for rust.

Good point.
The IR heating systems are supposed to heat objects before air. A combination of both, along with a dehumidifyer, might keep ambient humidity and temperatures inside even throughout the year.