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				One of these is just like the others
			 
			The new GM is not that new.... This is the new Cadillac Ciel  fire away! 
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			So, did you do the sketch?  Do you work for GM? Are you going to hit them up asking for cash? 
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			I dunno, the CIEL looks like a Cadillac, the sketch, other than the grill, not so much.
		 
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you forgot the GREEN
		 
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yes / used to / no
		 
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			But they are both ugly!
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			Nice work! Must feel very flattering!
		 
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|  08-19-2011, 03:44 PM | 
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Yep, I prefer Radu's headlights to the Ciel.
		 
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I like yours better. The Ciel grille is overwhelming.
		 
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			thanks guys, and yes it is flattering and surprising in the same time. that sketch is approx 7years old, in other words this car could've happen seven years ago.
		 
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			I don't understand.  They look nothing alike.  One's black, and the other green fer chrissakes.   Good to hear from you, Radu! Nice work. 
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			thx Noah.....Good to hear from you. Hope all is well. Gotta do a Mull run one of these days for old time's sake.
		 
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It seems to me that there are only so many things one can do with the Arts and Science design language.  Both are intriguing.  The Ciel is a neat idea . . .
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			I happen to like the Ciel - interesting connection with gostraight... However gostraights looks like a 2 seater supercar - when you see the entirety of the Ciel - it is a big sedan convertible... Like a sedan deVille... big... I see more Rolls in it than anything. But, I like the caddy swagger, however, I like caddies     
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			Hmmm... I've got to give Cadillac credit for making a good-looking car that is NOT highly derivative of something else. For the first time in decades, Cadillac has produced a car that at least looks like something someone wealthy would want to be seen in. I think going for a smooth, refined ride with the Ciel is a smart move, and keep the CTS to go after the sport-sedan market. 
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			Oh, and I thought they should have put the Sixteen into production as a extremely limited run, million-dollar halo car.
		 
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			It is RETRO...
		 
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			Looks a bit like the car in "the League Of Outstanding Gentleman"
		 
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