![]() |
|
|
|
Dept store Quartermaster
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: I'm right here Tati
Posts: 19,858
|
Replacing shocks/struts...never again
Just finished putting new shocks and struts on my Tundra (350,000+miles). Sweet fancy Moses did that suck. I have all the air-tools,impact wrenches, etc..and it still took me half the day. I consider myself a pretty decent wrench too, no Tim Hancock but I hold my own.
Every bolt was frozen, I snapped one off, had to air chisel another nut off..... Don't get me started on the cheesy spring compressors they loan ya(though this was the easiest part). Are shocks always a pain in the ass or what? Where is that whiskey? If someone tells me they would have put these on at a shop for <= $150 I may kill myself. ![]()
__________________
Cornpoppin' Pony Soldier Last edited by lendaddy; 10-18-2011 at 06:50 PM.. |
||
![]() |
|
Back in the saddle again
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Central TX west of Houston
Posts: 55,872
|
Shocks can certainly be a pain. I'd much rather do shocks than struts. If I have to do shocks, I want to do old school shocks that are mounted to the upper and lower control arms in the front and to the body and axle in the back.
I prefer to not do struts (all though the inserts on a 911 aren't bad). And the shocks on a miata are kind of a pain because they are coilovers so you need a spring compressor. Yes, miata have factory coilovers (not height adjustable), but they are NOT struts.
__________________
Steve '08 Boxster RS60 Spyder #0099/1960 - never named a car before, but this is Charlotte. '88 targa ![]() |
||
![]() |
|
Detached Member
Join Date: May 2003
Location: southern California
Posts: 26,964
|
Its cause you live in Michigan. Out here, not a big deal a little dirt maybe, but no rust. But yeah, I hear you. As I get older (57) I really don't like working on cars anymore.
__________________
Hugh |
||
![]() |
|
Dept store Quartermaster
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: I'm right here Tati
Posts: 19,858
|
I don't mind working on them really, I did the brakes on it recently, the front axles, the starter (located under the intake manifold, I chit you not). This all went just fine. This job was the devil.
__________________
Cornpoppin' Pony Soldier |
||
![]() |
|
Parrothead member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Monmouth county, NJ USA
Posts: 13,829
|
The shocks on my Grand Cherokee are a breeze. Dont even have to jack it up or get underneath to change them. Everythings accessible from the wheel well.
__________________
Vinny Red '86 944, 05 Ford Super Duty Dually '02 Ram 3500 Diesel 4x4 Dually, '07Jeep Wrangler '62 Mercury Meteor '90 Harley 1200 XL "Live your Life in such a way that the Westboro Baptist Church will want to picket your funeral." |
||
![]() |
|
Petie3rd
|
you prolly should have replaced the shocks sooner than 350K,
and I hope used anti seize on every bolt you put back in I just put front struts in my Rover, the lower attach bolts were frozen it took lots of PB blaster and some torch heat to free then big bolts
__________________
^^^ Stan ^^^ 2019 BMW K1250 GS 2016 HD RK 1988 S4 Auto , Elfenbein Perlglanz, Pearl Gray 1982 5sp Met black and tan sport seats |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
|
that's the kind of job you let the service center do..
__________________
"Todd" 98 Tahoe ,2007 Saturn Vue 86 930 black and stock, 80 930 blue tracdog 91 Spec Miata (yeah I race a chick car) "life"ll kill ya" Warren Zevon |
||
![]() |
|
Cogito Ergo Sum
|
Yup, damn rust belt...
My corrado came from joisey, and doing the suspension on it sucked. My 944 is a texas car, and it wasn't bad... Of course the pan gasket has a small leak, so it self lubricates the undercarriage a bit.... |
||
![]() |
|
Dept store Quartermaster
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: I'm right here Tati
Posts: 19,858
|
Indeed I should have let the Midas Man have at this one. The truck has 350k on it but only the last 125K or so are mine. The fronts were not original but I'm pretty sure the rears were.
I did use some antiseize on the tough to get to nuts, but the majority came right off with the impact. The location of the nuts is what killed the project, several were of the 1/4 turn at a time variety, it blew. If I had pneumatic ratchet I could have cut out a hour or more, but that's one of the few common tools I lack (yes I considered buying one but the idea of spending my "savings" stopped me. yea, I'm a idiot like that.
__________________
Cornpoppin' Pony Soldier |
||
![]() |
|
Dept store Quartermaster
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: I'm right here Tati
Posts: 19,858
|
The rears I did with the wheels on. I suppose the same is possible with the fronts but I didn't really think of it.
__________________
Cornpoppin' Pony Soldier |
||
![]() |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: N. Phoenix AZ USA
Posts: 28,943
|
Same here. As I get older I realize that I can make money easier than I can make time, and farm the more difficult maintenance out to someone I trust.
__________________
2013 Jag XF, 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins (the workhorse), 1992 Jaguar XJ S-3 V-12 VDP (one of only 100 examples made), 1969 Jaguar XJ (been in the family since new), 1985 911 Targa backdated to 1973 RS specs with a 3.6 shoehorned in the back, 1959 Austin Healey Sprite (former SCCA H-Prod), 1995 BMW R1100RSL, 1971 & '72 BMW R75/5 "Toaster," Ural Tourist w/sidecar, 1949 Aeronca Sedan / QB |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: May 2005
Location: trumpistan
Posts: 9,876
|
I did all four corners on my wife's Audi A6Q. It wasn't that bad really.
__________________
Brandolini’s Law: It takes hours more time, research, and writing to debunk misinformation than it takes to spread it. |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Valencia Pa.
Posts: 8,846
|
Just another day at the office for me.
__________________
No left turn un stoned |
||
![]() |
|
Dog-faced pony soldier
|
Hmm, just upgraded to Konis on one of the 944s. Four bolts on the top of the tower, two at the spindle connections (and two for the brake calipers, to make access easier - plus I rebuilt them since I was in there). When they were stubborn I just got a big-azz breaker bar and "crack", off they came. No fuss, no muss. This is a local NE car (not one of my transplanted CA cars) that I picked up here so there was some rust/corrosion too.
Maybe you've got the wrong kind of vehicle... ![]()
__________________
A car, a 911, a motorbike and a few surfboards Black Cars Matter |
||
![]() |
|
19 years and 17k posts...
|
We tried to replace the struts and shocks on our son's 2002 Ford Focus... Never again! I paid the local tire shop and paid $150 and they did it... Said the parts were all rusted in place and they had to fight it every inch of the way...
|
||
![]() |
|
Almost Banned Once
|
I recently replaced the front strut inserts on my mothers car. Absolute pain in the a$$.
Her mechanic wanted $300 to do the same job so I volunteered to do it for her. I have press and a big vice mounted on a steel plate. I clamp that vice in the press. I use the vice to grab the big nut holding the struts in. It's also a good way of holding the strut assemblies so you can work on them... Compressing the springs is always a pain. All in all it took me a full day. It's just a bad job but we don't get snow down here so the nuts were easy to get off. As I'm getting older I'm thinking of getting a torque multiplier. ![]()
__________________
- Peter |
||
![]() |
|
Super Moderator
|
Timely,
Ijust took my Durango in to a buddies shop because I could clearly see every damn shock bolt was fubar. In addition it needs a fuel pump. Drop the 27 gallon fuel pump with recessed rusted studs? No thank you.
__________________
Chris ---------------------------------------------- 1996 993 RS Replica 2023 KTM 890 Adventure R 1971 Norton 750 Commando Alcon Brake Kits |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
|
Back in college a buddy and I decided to refresh the suspension in our VW "rally" cars with Koni products. His was a '79 Rabbit hailing from somewhere in the MidWest and mine a '80 Scirocco SoCal native. Since he rented the spring compression tool we started in on his Rabbit first. After 3-4 hours of battling rusted/frozen bolts with no success we shifted to my car and had it completed in 2 hrs including a lunch break.
I recently installed new pads and rotors on my wife's '03 LR Discovery. One side was dead easy where the other was a major PITA. After removing the wheel I noticed that the brake caliper guide pin bolts were completely stripped. WTF goes out the my local brake shop... I wrestled them with vice grips to a stalemate so I coated them heavily with PB blaster for the night. The next day with the bolts removed I encountered the exact same situation with the caliper mounting frame bolts. A few more hours of battle is concluded with a rotor set screw that refused the impact driver and insisted on being drilled out. Damn what a mess. I definitely say I earned $350 the hard way that weekend. |
||
![]() |
|
![]() |
Registered
|
rest assured..i bet that is the last time you need to work on those shocks again..350k miles is damn impressive. 1st shock change?
i hate when the rear shock shaft spins and the nut is locked.
__________________
poof! gone |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: North of You
Posts: 9,160
|
Heat is your friend on rusty bolts. Cherry red, then impact gun.
__________________
"A machine you build yourself is a vote for a different way of life. There are things you have to earn with your hands." |
||
![]() |
|