|
|
|
|
|
|
I see you
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: NJ
Posts: 29,930
|
The inhumanity of youth...what is the realistic punishment?
Man this really made my jaw drop. This kind of brutality pales in comparison to war and other uncivil crimes but d-a-m-n. What is the punishment for these lids? Clearly they're not right in the head, how can they be? But how to make them truly see the error of their ways?
Outpour of support for N.J. homeless man beaten by 2 youths supplies the chance to change | NJ.com
__________________
Si non potes inimicum tuum vincere, habeas eum amicum and ride a big blue trike. "'Bipartisan' usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." |
||
|
|
|
|
Slackerous Maximus
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 18,203
|
You can punish them, but if they are 17, and think that beating homeless men is good idea, I have little faith you can rehabilitate them. If they don't have empathy at this point......
__________________
2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor. 2012 Harley Davidson Road King 2014 Triumph Bonneville T100. 2014 Cayman S, PDK. Mercedes E350 family truckster. |
||
|
|
|
|
Registered
|
Very sad.
Sign them up for Bully Beatdown....Bully Beatdown (Season 3) | Full Episodes, Photos, Episode Synopsis and Recaps | MTV
__________________
madmmac AKA Mitch 1984 Factory Turbo Look 2006 4Runner 1998 TRD Supercharged 4Runner (Sleeper) |
||
|
|
|
|
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 6,930
|
17 is close enough. Treat them as adults
|
||
|
|
|
|
drunk and stupid
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 8,619
|
|||
|
|
|
|
?
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 30,579
|
I'm pretty sure I'd be facing some serious jail time were I to witness something so disgusting. That wouldn't even enter my mind at the time however...
|
||
|
|
|
|
|
Registered
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake Oswego, OR
Posts: 6,096
|
The issue is empathy. They don't see homeless as themselves. They need to have a task where they come to see homeless as humans -better yet as humans with very little power or resources.
Related. I have a coworker who tossed heated coins to a homeless guy while his son was watching. Then he boasted of this. What kind of social stereotype do we have of the homeless? Merry Christmas Larry |
||
|
|
|
|
Registered
|
The article makes no mention of Dad or Mom.
Wonder what kind of lessons this kid grew up recieving. What kind of punishment? thousands of hours working with the homeless,at the shelter. Then off to the military. |
||
|
|
|
|
Back in the saddle again
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Central TX west of Houston
Posts: 56,313
|
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
Steve '08 Boxster RS60 Spyder #0099/1960 - never named a car before, but this is Charlotte. '88 targa SOLD 2004 - gone but not forgotten
|
||
|
|
|
|
74 911Ebay
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,035
|
We need to adjust our prisons mission.
Forget rehabilitation, prisons are for punishment. Shift the rehabilitation to the parole officers. "We've got far to many hung juries and not enough hung defendants." - Dennis Miller
__________________
The world needs more Protest Singers |
||
|
|
|
|
winter-hater club member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: salt lake city, utah
Posts: 24,705
|
stupid. callous. cowardly. heartless.
__________________
2000 Corvette - ????, 2007 Buell XB9R - Astrid, 1996 Discovery - Piglet, 2000 Forester "COOL PRIUS!" - Nobody Ever |
||
|
|
|
|
winter-hater club member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: salt lake city, utah
Posts: 24,705
|
there is some truth here. without suffering and self reflection, together, there is no rehabilitation. prisons should be hard time, breaking rocks, digging ditches, etc. save the counseling and rehabilitation for the last six months, maybe.
__________________
2000 Corvette - ????, 2007 Buell XB9R - Astrid, 1996 Discovery - Piglet, 2000 Forester "COOL PRIUS!" - Nobody Ever |
||
|
|
|
|
|
Get off my lawn!
|
Yep. Put in prison where the real bad dudes stay. Let them learn first hand what it is like to not be in control of the situation. Some dude the size of Shaquille O'Neal needs to tell them they look real cute and "bend over, you gonna be my wife now"
__________________
Glen 49 Year member of the Porsche Club of America 1985 911 Carrera; 2017 Macan 1986 El Camino with Fuel Injected 350 Crate Engine My Motto: I will never be too old to have a happy childhood! |
||
|
|
|
|
Parrothead member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Monmouth county, NJ USA
Posts: 13,852
|
That was here in my neighborhood. next town over. Pretty sad.
__________________
Vinny Red '86 944, 05 Ford Super Duty Dually '02 Ram 3500 Diesel 4x4 Dually, '07Jeep Wrangler '62 Mercury Meteor '90 Harley 1200 XL "Live your Life in such a way that the Westboro Baptist Church will want to picket your funeral." |
||
|
|
|
|
Registered
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 3,003
|
Bureaucracies work both ways
Just let them go on $1 bail and turn a blind eye while they get the schit beaten out of them by an angry mob. Then refuse them treatment at the hospital. As they bleed to death outside the hospital reiterate in graphic detail what they had done so nobody feels sorry for them. Then investigate the case with the same attention as a stolen 20 y/o Honda. |
||
|
|
|
|
Registered
|
I bet the moron that posted those videos on YouTube was thinking "They're gonna love this one..." Darwin rules!
__________________
72 911T 2.4 MFI 2017 Escape SE 2.0 turbo 2020 Honda Civic Touring Sport 1.6 turbo 10' Madone 5.2/17' Lynskey ProCross |
||
|
|
|
|
Registered
|
That's bad, but we just had a case in Omaha where two 15-year-olds forced a 6-year-old girl to perform sex acts on her 4-year-old brother. I don't see how those 15-year-olds should ever be allowed into society.
__________________
Steve Wilwerding 1998 3.4L Zenith Blue Boxster 2009 Meteor Gray Cayenne |
||
|
|
|
|
Double Trouble
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: North of Pittsburgh
Posts: 11,705
|
just cut their dicks off.
|
||
|
|
|
|
Registered
|
While I think the actions of these youths deplorable, I am a bit surprised at the outrage. I saw much worse than this every day in high school. Did this not happen where you folks went to school?
__________________
74 Targa 3.0, 89 Carrera, 04 Cayenne Turbo http://www.pelicanparts.com/gallery/fintstone/ "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" Some are born free. Some have freedom thrust upon them. Others simply surrender |
||
|
|
|
|
?
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 30,579
|
Quote:
. ps: I'm certainly no "badass" but crap like that "pushes the wrong button", and there's no way I'll remain on the sideline. That's just me... |
||
|
|
|