Another "No-Knock" Raid...

[legion]

This is getting pretty ridiculous...

FBI Uses Chainsaw In Raid On Wrong Fitchburg Apartment « CBS Boston

FITCHBURG (CBS) – It’s going to be a while before things get back to normal for Judy Sanchez and her three-year-old daughter.

Last Thursday, a team of FBI agents swarmed her apartment building as part of a massive citywide drug and weapons gang raid.

Trouble is, Sanchez lives in apartment 2R.

The suspect they were after is in 2F.

At 6:04 last Thursday morning, just before Sanchez’ alarm was set to go off, she heard a pounding outside her second floor apartment.

“I just happened to glance over and saw this huge chainsaw ripping down the side of my door,” she explains. “And I was freaking out. I didn’t know what was going on.”

Within moments, the chainsaw had cut through most of her door, and someone on the FBI’s arrest team kicked the rest of it in.

“That’s when I heard the clicking of a gun and I heard ‘FBI, get down!’, so I laid right on down.

And they said get your dog, so I got her and at the same time I am laying in her urine because she did pee on herself at the same time.”

That dog is the family’s three-month-old pit bull puppy.

Sanchez says they left her on the floor for 35 minutes, with her daughter screaming for her mommy in the other room.

“I was told not to move, so I didn’t move,” she tells WBZ, out of fear that she’d be shot.

Eventually the feds figured out they were in the wrong spot and they arrested the suspect they were after in the next door apartment.

Sanchez can’t believe that a two-year long federal investigation ended at the wrong door.

“The looks on their faces when they knew they got the wrong door was priceless,” she recalls. “They looked at each other dumbfounded.”

Sanchez says another agent came by later that day to offer an apology, but it was one that Sanchez felt wasn’t quite genuine.

“For me it felt routine apology, it felt like just a regular, ‘I’m sorry for the inconvenience. Here’s the phone number for your landlord to get reimbursed for the door, have a good day.’

And that’s how I felt, like it was a smack in the face.”

And this is the first comment:

WOW! Almost the same thing happened to me on that same day! No chainsaw..but, around 9:30 that same morning I was scared to death by pounding on my door, and the other doors in my apt building. I thought I was about to die or something. They pounded so hard, my LOCKED door swung open. Looking for someone who did not live in my building. I tried to tell them this..but it did not matter, they didn’t believe me and a team of about 8 swarmed through all the rooms in my apartment. I did not receive any apologies. I guess since they didn’t use a chainsaw.. they really need to get their info straight before they go ripping through innocent peoples lives. It’s terrifying.

[Schrup]

Typical jack-booted thuggery. These people live by a different set of laws & values then the rest of us "civlians". I bet there was somebody next door selling that devil weed that is corrupting our police state. She is lucky to be alive, I'm shocked they didn't bring any evidence to plant. Must be nice to live above the law.

[vash]

i think at least ONE cop needs to be smart. one!!

my brother's group ordered chainsaws and a cut off saw on my recommendation..like i was a logger or something. good thing i said.."get a stihl". when i asked what it was for, they said cutting thru doors. amazing.

i know some stupid ass policemen. trust me..i hope they dont get the chainsaw.

but that shock and awe approach must save lives. i would hit the ground in a nanosecond. but read the friggen address..double check idiots.

[patssle]

Defend your home against unlawful intruders = you're fked for the rest of your life.

Don't you love the smell of burnt freedom?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by vash

i think at least ONE cop needs to be smart. one!!

my brother's group ordered chainsaws and a cut off saw on my recommendation..like i was a logger or something. good thing i said.."get a stihl". when i asked what it was for, they said cutting thru doors. amazing.

i know some stupid ass policemen. trust me..i hope they dont get the chainsaw.

but that shock and awe approach must save lives. i would hit the ground in a nanosecond. but read the friggen address..double check idiots.

What I don't understand is that a chainsaw seems like a pretty slow way to get through a door compared to just kicking it in. Not only is it slow, but there's a cop standing there in front of the door while he's wielding the saw just waiting for a bad guy to start firing through the door.

Seems like a bad idea to me.

[RedBaron]

Hey, at least they didn't shoot the dog.

[dipso]

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by masraum

What I don't understand is that a chainsaw seems like a pretty slow way to get through a door compared to just kicking it in. Not only is it slow, but there's a cop standing there in front of the door while he's wielding the saw just waiting for a bad guy to start firing through the door.

Seems like a bad idea to me.

I expect it is a fast swipe in the middle to cut a big wooden "bar".

OTOH, I do not understand how these "no knock" warrants can get screwed up. With a no-knock you would expect double and triple checking.

[Joeaksa]

Am surprised that they did not shoot the dog right away, really am.

This sort of thing needs to stop and right away...

[Hugh R]

If I had home defense at the ready and a ******* chainsaw started going through my door, I think I'd pull the trigger before what I would assume was the Texas Chainsaw Massacre part 3.

[flatbutt]

what if she had been armed and started firing through the door?

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

what if she had been armed and started firing through the door?

She would be dead, like the guy in Arizona.

Oh, so sorry...

[vash]

Originally Posted by masraum

What I don't understand is that a chainsaw seems like a pretty slow way to get through a door compared to just kicking it in. Not only is it slow, but there's a cop standing there in front of the door while he's wielding the saw just waiting for a bad guy to start firing through the door.

Seems like a bad idea to me.

the drug guys have non standard doors with wood beams across them..lord of the ring style.

[Moses]

Originally Posted by patssle

Defend your home against unlawful intruders = you're fked for the rest of your life.

Don't you love the smell of burnt freedom?

It's just unbelievable.

Land of the free. Right...

[LakeCleElum]

Originally Posted by red-beard

OTOH, I do not understand how these "no knock" warrants can get screwed up. With a no-knock you would expect double and triple checking.

How? Informants lie to protect their suppliers. Dopers lie about their addresses (their arrest warrant lists an address they have never lived at), etc......Agree it shouldn't happen, but it's not nearly as black and white and you seem to think it is....

[patssle]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

what if she had been armed and started firing through the door?

She would be dead and the police would be getting a paid vacation.

I ever own a home, I will reinforce my doors. For burglars and the police.

[944Larry]

Originally Posted by RedBaron

Hey, at least they didn't shoot the dog.

I find that hard to believe nowadays.

[Joe Bob]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

what if she had been armed and started firing through the door?

Here's a thought....arrest them OUT SIDE of the FUCHIN' house.......

WTF....everyone has to go out some time...work, groceries, the local crack delivery....

Why does the PD have to whack down doors?

It should happen in one in fifty cases.....

I love my country, I fear the asshats that run it.

[9dreizig]

Originally Posted by red-beard

I expect it is a fast swipe in the middle to cut a big wooden "bar".

OTOH, I do not understand how these "no knock" warrants can get screwed up. With a no-knock you would expect double and triple checking.

From high school educated C students who are given a gun, crew cut, gustopo boots and told to go out and harass the innocent public ?????

[cstreit]

This is really scary.. so what is the protocol for authorities in a situation where they are there to make an arrest?