When did 12 ounces become a pint?

[Chuck Moreland]

Thought I'd try out the Yard House. First time visit, these are apparently in many cities.

As the name suggests, they have a very large beer selection.

My wife ordered a bottle (12 ounces) and poured it in glass. I ordered up a pint on tap, the glass and fill level were identical to my wife's 12 ounce beer.

As any beer drinker knows, a pint is 16 ounces. The pint size glasses are very familiar.

I flagged the waitress, explaining I had ordered up a pint, assuming she brought the wrong beer. She said it was a pint. I set it next to my wife's 12 ounce beer, fresh out of the bottle, to illustrate the obvious.

She sends over the manager who also said it was a pint. He claimed the glass could theoretically hold a pint if filled to the very top, but they leave about 1/2 inch to avoid spillage when serving.

To prove his point, he heads off to measure the glass. Upon returning, he conceded the glass when filled to over flowing actually holds only 15 ounces.

With the 1/2 inch they under fill, that leaves just about 12 oz of beer in their "pint".

[slodave]

Haha. This has been around for a while. You can buy 12 oz. "pint" glasses.

[trekkor]

I don't like it.


KT

[jyl]

Rip off. Contact the local muckraker TV reporter. This is the sort of thing they'd like.

[slodave]

Originally Posted by trekkor

I don't like it.


KT

It's fine when they are charging 12oz prices. But it's used a lot to screw the customer over. Most don't notice the difference.

[slodave]

I used to frequent a pub that had two different pint glasses. Both were 16oz, but one had a rough bottom on the inside of the glass and a red dot on the bottom to tell the two apart. It was said that the rough bottom encouraged the bubbles to continue to form for the duration of the beer. Seems the British prefer that. Most patrons would get the normal glass, the regulars and Brits would get the special glass. After I became a regular, I started to get this glass with the red dot. I never noticed the rough bottom until I asked what the dot was for.

EDIT: After a quick read, it looks like the roughed up bottom helps with head retention.

[Chuck Moreland]

They're being intentionally deceptive. I won't go back.

I appreciate this is more of a trendy place than it is a real beer hall. But their theme is the beer. And they aren't even serving up a legitimate pour.

[rusnak]

The Yard House used to be called the Foot House, but they embellish, those bastards.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Yard House sucks. There used to be one within walking distance in Long Beach when I lived there. I went twice. Both times I was terribly disappointed. Their whole schtick is that they have lots of beers available. The reality is that (yes) they do have a lot of beers available but if you don't buy something that's common (i.e. Bud, Coors or similar pisswater), it's likely to be old/skunked and don't bother complaining. They're also extremely overpriced.

You can do better elsewhere at a local microbrew pub.

[Heel n Toe]

My friend Phillip from Liverpool gave me what he termed as "a proper pint glass" that he brought over from the old country a few years ago. It's for Guinness and has the company logo on it and says PINT with an image of a crown just below it on the side opposite the logo.

I just put 16 oz. of water in a measuring cup and poured it in... it was about half an inch from the rim.

That's your problem, Chuck... you need to take your own glass into this place.

[slodave]

But is it roughed up on the inside, bottom??

[Heel n Toe]

No, I just checked... whatchootalkinboutWillis?

[slodave]

See above. It has something to do with keeping the "head" longer.

[Heel n Toe]

Hmmm. I'm gonna ask Philly about that... interesting.

So those type glasses weren't just for stout?

[slodave]

Dunno anymore. I just remember the two different glasses.

[Steve Viegas]

You need an imperial pint, 20 oz.

[72doug2,2S]

Any drink that says it's a pint should be 21 oz. A pint as a drink in bar is not the same as a US pint measurement for other culinary purposes.

[Edit 20 oz]

[ckissick]

Originally Posted by Steve Viegas

You need an imperial pint, 20 oz.

Or Bavarian pint: 120 oz.

[mossguy]

Bavarian Pint!

[lane912]

many beer distributors will sell glassware that resemble a pint glass but the bottom is a bit thicker touting that slipping a case or two into your stock of glasses can up your bar receipts. this was a problem several hundred years ago in england and ireland. they passed a simple law thus the logo etched onto the pint glass indicating that it is as true pint.
knowing this, if I order a beer and get one of the special glasses I won't go back-
this is Portland and beer is beer-