I need a primer (house) that will stick to ANYTHING.

[HardDrive]

I bought a rental that has this awful spray on stucco over the clapboard. Its hideous.

I plan on residing the house and doing the windows, but not this year. Its going to get healthy does of caulk (perhaps even some JB Weld in places ), then I want to paint it. I'm not sure, but I think its painted with latex. Point being, I want to prime it with a water based product that will stick like hell. If I can get 5 years out of the paint job, I will be happy.

The current (supposedly latex paint) is a satin. It has a bit of sheen to it.

Talk to me paint gurus.

I guess I would be willing to put on an oil based product, but I'd rather not.

[rusnak]

Try calling a paint store that carries elastomeric paints.

[look 171]

you want to paint over siding that's been painted with a latex base material? You need this paint job to last 5 years then re-siding? Tell me why do you want to redo it? Is the siding bad? They usually last a long time. How old is it? 5 years? Just prime it and paint it and leave it alone. With CA latex paint, it will start peeling within 5 years.

I would take a scraper and take off that rough stuff. I bet you will find some very nice wood pieces under there. Decide then what to do with it.

[rnln]

for primer, I heard multiple people said the 1-2-3 stuff is the best regarding sticking. it also has anti-mole. I used it on my house last year. One thing I noticed, when it get on my hands, hard to get it off.

[rfuerst911sc]

The 1-2-3 primer I believe is made by Zinnser and is good stuff and so is Kilz. Haven't bought in a long time but I'm guessing they are now available in latex/acrylic formulas.

[chocolatelab]

Kilz for sure

[azasadny]

I like Bin Zisser's primer...

[craigster59]

I had a house with the same stuff. Tex-Cote on wood siding. Used a device called the Paint Shaver to remove most material and then repainted. Like Chocolatelab said, Kilz 2 primer is the way to go.

[LWJ]

I have used Kilz and some other oil based stuff in rentals. I also have some water based quality primer that I think was from Rodda - not sure if you have them in Seattle.

It was so damn sticky that I couldn't get it all off my hands for many days.

Ask your paint store. There should be good stuff for this.
Larry

[Zeke]

Gripper by Glidden. HD has it. Behr is good for the top coat. Tint the Gripper 1/2 formula. One coat of Behr.

Read the reviews on Kilz. My paint supply won't carry it.

[gr8fl4porsche]

Do you have any pics, especially close up?

You may not need a primer.

[Palum6o]

+1 on Glidden Gripper, I've used it many times and is way better than Kilz. Gripper gives a nice uniform coverage, so the top coat will show better. As for a top coat, I never liked Behr. When I painted commercially - we went with Duron.

Zeke, tell us about the tinting of the gripper, why..?

[carr914]

Go to a Paint Profession and skip Home Depot. That place is on par with WalMart

[MikeSid]

Go to Aurora Paint Supply on 80th and Aurora or Queen and Magnolia Paint on 15th West.

Zinsser BIN is shellac. Cleans with ammonia, not thinner. I use that indoors on wet locations like kitchen and bath, but I wouldn't bother with it for exterior. I also wouldn't bother to put an oil based paint on the exterior.

I like the Zinsser 1-2-3 with a Benjamin Moore MoorGuard Low Lustre latex top coat.

Given that this is a rental, AND you plan to redo the siding, I don't know that I'd spring for BM paints. You'll get 5 years out of virtually any paint on the West, North, and East sides. Redo the south side in a couple years and you'll be fine.

I'd also rather paint than prep, so I tend to paint more frequently than needed in order to avoid getting to the point where a lot of prep is needed. Painting is easy. Good prep is not.

[look 171]

HardDrive, I think you are putting too much thinking into this painting thing. If you are residing in 5 years, just prime and paint. I like Zinnser or Gripper by Glidden. Just paint over over it with a good quality paint such as Moore, vista, or S. Williams. Tinting the primer to the same color as your paint will give you a little bit of uniform finish. Rent a sprayer. I spray the finish on and save you a ton of time so you can go drive your 911 and get some speeding tickets like the rest of us.

I would try and take off the coating on there. Try it, it might be easier then you think. Wood siding is not cheap.

[nut11]

Don't laugh but I prime w/ linseed oil, particularly exposed wood. It takes about a week to fully dry but it sticks to anything and conditions any exposed wood fantastically. Mix it w/ a little thinner if you want a faster drying period. Over 30 years of satisfied good luck w/ this application.

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[HardDrive]

Thanks all for the advice. I'm going to try the 1-2-3 and the Glidden gripper simply because I like to experiment.

@look171, I'm not residing with wood, its getting Hardie plank. Hardie board over furring strips is a great solution here in the PNW. Pretty cheap as well.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Palum6o

Zeke, tell us about the tinting of the gripper, why..?

We tint primers so we aren't trying to cover dead white. Of course, if you are painting white, you wouldn't do this.

For instance, yellow is a notorious color for trying to cover another color and getting bleed through. It is a lot easier if the base is already somewhat yellow and it still may take 2 coats. 3 coats of finish is never a good idea. It's costly and there's too much paint to properly cure, IMHO. So if you're doing a green, try to get the primer base over to that side of the spectrum.

Now brown (or other deep colors) paint presents its own problem. Why in the world would anyone prime white before going brown? Well, I don't. I find a good acrylic flat brown stain for my primer.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

Thanks all for the advice. I'm going to try the 1-2-3 and the Glidden gripper simply because I like to experiment.

@look171, I'm not residing with wood, its getting Hardie plank. Hardie board over furring strips is a great solution here in the PNW. Pretty cheap as well.

I like Hardie products. EAsy to install and they tend to last forever. rental + cheap, me like lots.

[chocolatelab]

+1 always tint your primer!!!!

that little step will saves untold hours