Did not pass code...

[recycled sixtie]

Here are some pics of the steps on our deck that was built by our dissolved contractor. The game is and it is not too hard to conclude what is wrong with these steps. I will post more pics as I rectify these steps.

[Baz]

In our area the top step would need more height on that riser. Also maybe they would require a handrail.

[red-beard]

I think you need to raise the deck

[URY914]

Originally Posted by red-beard

I think you need to raise the deck

Or add a step on top of the deck.

[VINMAN]

Dont know the height but, Looks like you could have gotten away with two steps. Top step is a tripping hazard. Also risers cant be opened like that

3 steps or more require a handrail. Oh and steps need to land on a secure footing.

[stomachmonkey]

Looks like a pre manufactured stringer so run and rise are probably kosher. As noted already, handrail, tripping hazard, footing.

What are the front feet of the stringers sitting on? Looks like some cut down dowels used to level between the poured concrete and paver.

Maybe a better question is, What's right with it?

[Zeke]

Lower it down where is attaches to the deck. So the top riser equals the rest. The steps will lean in. Use stacks of fender washers to level the steps when you bolt them on.

[island911]

"Code"

yeah, that is bad design, for a number of reasons. ... but so too are 'pull' handles on push to open retail doors, for example. Quick, call the design police.

As much as I loath bad design, do we really need a design police for peoples private property? ...and why do we have it for only the people with money who have hired architect? ...why not send those code enforcers into trailer parks? ..check under peoples mattresses to make certain they're not using press-board for structure... ...check the mattress for urine and bodily fluids which might have a safety risk. ...think of the children!!

[ODDJOB UNO]

what the HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?



you forgot the "ADA" wheel chair ramp! and the freeking handicrapper toilet!

and the "handicrapper" parking ZONE with ramp!

and the lighted hand rail and the lighted steps!


what were you thinking?

[ODDJOB UNO]

and.....................you FORGOT THE AUTO FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM!

the handheld uscg UL listed fire extinguishers..........(4)


and a heart defib system wall mounted 4ft above floor level...........


and ANTI SKID 3m matting to steps to avoid spinouts and slippage during rain or snow!



man im telling you this project will get you sued into the stone age in no time!

sheesh!


man i almost forgot the safety helmet rack/the safety vest rack/safety eyewear rack/the safety eye wash station/and the safety shoe rack!

[mossguy]

Originally Posted by island911

"Code"

yeah, that is bad design, for a number of reasons. ... but so too are 'pull' handles on push to open retail doors, for example. Quick, call the design police.

As much as I loath bad design, do we really need a design police for peoples private property? ...and why do we have it for only the people with money who have hired architect? ...why not send those code enforcers into trailer parks? ..check under peoples mattresses to make certain they're not using press-board for structure... ...check the mattress for urine and bodily fluids which might have a safety risk. ...think of the children!!

Good morning iLand. You seem a little grumpy this a.m.

[VINMAN]

You would not believe the new 2009 IRC codes regarding decks. just a single railing post requires an additional $25 in hardware and specialized connectors to meet the current code. But its funny how the ony way to meet the code is by using Simpson hardware. (who just so happens to be on the IRC council.....)
Some of the codes i can agree with though , due to the fact that there have been so many deck collapses over the year due to very poor construction. But the majority of them i feel are rediclulous.

[Baz]

[cashflyer]

Where I live, "your house, your deck, your problem" is the "code".

I'll take photos of my deck (built by the PO) and you'll all wonder why my whole family hasn't maimed or killed.

[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Lower it down where is attaches to the deck. So the top riser equals the rest.

the rise at each step can not be more that 1/8" diff on each. you could flush it up with the deck n 1st step and put a landing at the bottom that can be lower than the rest of the step rises. landing would prolly have to be a minimum of 48" x 48"

[island911]

Originally Posted by mossguy

Good morning iLand. You seem a little grumpy this a.m.

Nah.. I think that you must be projecting your mood a bit. ...this AM I'm the usual amount of grumpy.

The code police... give a guy a clip-board... it never ends well.

Again, I really do like good design, but the code police are not the solution.

Their end is always about control for the sake of control (power over people - not driving good design)

[aigel]

That does look like an accident waiting to happen after the first few pints out of the keg. Regardless of code, I'd even the spacing (either 2 or 3 steps) and I would also add a hand rail.

G

[island911]

Originally Posted by aigel

That does look like an accident waiting to happen after the first few pints out of the keg. Regardless of code, I'd even the spacing (either 2 or 3 steps) and I would also add a hand rail.

G

Drunks should have an easy path back to their car.

[aigel]

Originally Posted by island911

Drunks should have an easy path back to their car.

There are also the elderly and worse - the drunk elderly - to worry about.

G

[notmytarga]

Toured a house that had a top stair like that. Damn near fell into the hall. This was inside, carpeted etc. Not a cheap house too. Never looked back. What did they do that didn't show? Stairway math is pretty important.