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KFC911 06-26-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by motion (Post 7518119)
Sorry, but you can hardly compare Microsoft and IBM with Apple.

You're correct...Apple produces "consumer gadgets/toys" while IBM (REAL computers and Op. Systems :)) and Microsoft (along with Unix) absolutely DOMINATE their perspective niches too. Anyone who bought IBM a year or so ago would have virtually doubled their investment btw. Lots of you guys bought APPL on the unsustainable hyper-bubble it was in last year and have lost your perspective imo. IBM and MSFT will be doing very nicely ten years from now....count on it! Not sure about Apple (somewhat of a consumer fad imo) than can be replaced very easily. Consumers can be a fickle bunch :D

BlueSkyJaunte 06-26-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by motion (Post 7518119)
Sorry, but you can hardly compare Microsoft and IBM with Apple.

You're right, Lucky Brand Jeans might be a better comparison.

PushingMyLuck 06-27-2013 07:48 PM

Motion, you initially bought at $580.
It then went to $700.
Were you tempted to sell at $700, or did you want to buy more at $700.
Now that it's $393, what is your plan?

Vintage Racer 06-27-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PushingMyLuck (Post 7520176)
Motion, you initially bought at $580.
Now that it's $393, what is your plan?

I agree.

I've been a member here since whatever it says on my User Name. I've read the "loser" gold- silver thread.

I've read the Apple thread. I'd state for the record that you should ignore or go short everything posted here.

I've been going short. It's been like "pure sex".

The Apple short and the gold/silver short has worked perfectly. I love it.

Do you "experts" have any other market timing commentary?

I'd like to short against it.

KFC911 06-28-2013 02:37 AM

With all due respect Vintage (and I DO pay attention to your posts), I've been on these threads also, and you'd have lost your a$$ taking the contrarian position (shorting) the moves I've made on APPL, gold, or stocks in general. I hope you've made bazillions, but I have no regrets either.

ps: You should get rid of your race cars...your driving absolutely sucks compared to the professionals :)

Of course I keed...but hope you get the point.

motion 06-28-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintage Racer (Post 7520253)
I agree.

I've been a member here since whatever it says on my User Name. I've read the "loser" gold- silver thread.

I've read the Apple thread. I'd state for the record that you should ignore or go short everything posted here.

I've been going short. It's been like "pure sex".

The Apple short and the gold/silver short has worked perfectly. I love it.

Do you "experts" have any other market timing commentary?

I'd like to short against it.

I may seem like a complete knucklehead to you, but I did load up on AAPL at $50 back in the day and made a few bucks. I have also shown many people here how to get 12% + on their money, which I continue to do.

I did load up on AAPL at $700 because I felt strongly that it was headed for $1000. I was wrong, but I continue to believe it will get there eventually. Apple has a strong history of creating new categories and I think they'll continue that. Johnny Ives is a brilliant designer, and I believe in him.

I haven't thrown anything at this I wasn't willing to lose anyway, so all is good. Its only money, yeah?

motion 07-24-2013 11:41 AM

Cautiously optimistic... I have picked up more for $400-410 lately to average things a bit. Looks like its going to be a busy fall for new products, but I worry about Apple losing their focus, like they did back in the Gausse, Scully days when they were introducing too many lackluster products.

enzo1 08-13-2013 11:27 AM

up 24.69.....:) Apple jumps as Icahn tweets about ‘large’ stake
Billionaire activist talks with Tim Cook about increasing buyback....correction: 26.89...

enzo1 08-13-2013 11:32 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1376422338.jpg

RWebb 08-13-2013 11:56 AM

well, I'm glad I got in ahead of Icahn

RWebb 08-13-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintage Racer (Post 7520253)

Do you "experts" have any other market timing commentary?

I'd like to short against it.

Yes, do the opposite of whatever tabs says.

enzo1 08-13-2013 11:58 AM

Carl Icahn ✔ @Carl_C_Icahn

We currently have a large position in APPLE. We believe the company to be extremely undervalued. Spoke to Tim Cook today. More to come.

Carl Icahn ✔ @Carl_C_Icahn

Had a nice conversation with Tim Cook today. Discussed my opinion that a larger buyback should be done now. We plan to speak again shortly.
1:25 PM - 13 Aug 2013

motion 08-13-2013 02:06 PM

Come on, baby!!!

McLovin 08-13-2013 02:19 PM

LOL.

As of today, I'm pretty close to even. I bought at a high of $550, but then also bought at various times since then, when it was much lower, so I'm averaged at around $500.

I don't have a huge amount in it, $20K or so in total, so I'm not too worried.

AAPL isn't going broke, that's for sure. And at some point there will be another period of "irrational exhuberance" for it again. These stocks seem so "trendy."

Still, wish I would have bought Tesla at $40 instead of AAPL at $550! That's about where Tesla was when I started buying APPL.

techweenie 08-14-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 7315855)

Still feel its a buy at anything under $550. Other than iPods, their key product lines are thriving.

I posted this back in March. Still feel that way. Looks like I have some company...

McLovin 08-14-2013 11:53 AM

I'm back in black as of today.

Now I wish I would have doubled my holdings when it was selling at $398!

Don Ro 08-14-2013 11:59 AM

This morning FBN said it was a buy.
.
However, yesterday a fellow on FBN said Apple was doomed w/o Jobs.

motion 08-14-2013 12:14 PM

I'm at -17% aggregate. Still optimistic...

Good news for some of you to recoup early losses.

motion 08-14-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Ro (Post 7602086)
However, yesterday a fellow on FBN said Apple was doomed w/o Jobs.

My gut tells me the same thing.... that the magic is gone. We'll see. iTV and iWatch could prove to be HUGE market leaders with a vast market. The transition from cable/dish television content to Internet provided content is just beginning. And, its bigger than computers, iPods, iPads, etc. There's still huge potential for Apple to lead.

imcarthur 09-04-2013 05:50 AM

Apple have scheduled a press conference in China the day after the Cupertino one. This could be a China Mobile deal announcement & that's a whole bunch of new potential customers . . . they have 137.9 million 3G users.

Ian

BlueSkyJaunte 09-04-2013 08:42 AM

The problem with China is that there are many different iPhone clones out there in the wild already.

10+ iPhone Clones You Never See Before

motion 09-04-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte (Post 7637979)
The problem with China is that there are many different iPhone clones out there in the wild already.

10+ iPhone Clones You Never See Before

You can't underestimate the status of a real iPhone. All the emerging markets are clamoring for them.

BlueSkyJaunte 09-04-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by motion (Post 7638083)
You can't underestimate the status of a real iPhone. All the emerging markets are clamoring for them.

I thought we were talking about investing in cool tech, not status symbols. SmileWavy

McLovin 09-04-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by motion (Post 7602118)
My gut tells me the same thing.... that the magic is gone. .

Ah ****, we've lost fan boi #1! :)

If it gets back to $550, I'm going to sell.

(Of course, that will ensure that it will go to $650+ within 30 days, you guys can thank me then).

imcarthur 09-04-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte (Post 7638114)
I thought we were talking about investing in cool tech, not status symbols. SmileWavy

There is no difference to the 20s/30s mid/upscale Chinese consumer. Real brand name goods - as opposed to the fakes - are highly sought after. Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Apple - they are all the same.

Ian

techweenie 09-04-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by motion (Post 7638083)
You can't underestimate the status of a real iPhone. All the emerging markets are clamoring for them.

This "status" comes from the fact it works, has a warranty, has a support infrastructure; the chargers don't electrocute people, it integrates with the iTunes ecosystem, etc. The upwardly-mobile part of the Chinese population recognizes the value of a fully engineered product over a reverse-engineered product.

I remember when I could get a knockoff Rolex for $30 or so. And it was all the same to me, because I'm not a watch guy. But you know what, Rolex is doing just fine despite cheap copies.

porsche4life 09-09-2013 08:57 AM

Keynote coming up tomorrow... Anybody picking up some more AAPL?

motion 09-09-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 7638648)
This "status" comes from the fact it works, has a warranty, has a support infrastructure; the chargers don't electrocute people, it integrates with the iTunes ecosystem, etc. The upwardly-mobile part of the Chinese population recognizes the value of a fully engineered product over a reverse-engineered product.

I remember when I could get a knockoff Rolex for $30 or so. And it was all the same to me, because I'm not a watch guy. But you know what, Rolex is doing just fine despite cheap copies.

Yes, and that's why I will happily pay double or triple for something that works well. Especially when I know it can be sold at a premium down the road to fund the next upgrade. Seems like a no-brainer to me, but what do I know.

techweenie 09-10-2013 09:31 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1378834307.jpg

motion 09-10-2013 09:37 AM

No surprises yet.... stock price is flat...

enzo1 09-10-2013 10:05 AM

http://live.theverge.com/apple-iphone-5s-liveblog/

motion 09-10-2013 10:32 AM

Guess investors are not happy, LOL.

Aggie93 09-10-2013 10:37 AM

5C at $549 unlocked too expensive to boost demand in China. Estimates were $350-450.

RWebb 09-10-2013 10:58 AM

ok, S or C??

widgeon13 09-10-2013 11:05 AM

Stock down $10 at 3 PM ET, guess not a lot of market excitement.

imcarthur 09-10-2013 11:09 AM

The stock prices today & probably tomorrow have nothing to do with stockholders. These are all the margin buyers fighting it out. It is yo-yoing.

Ian

widgeon13 09-10-2013 11:41 AM

Isn't the yo yo ing related to the announcement on new phones?

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The stock prices today &amp; probably tomorrow have nothing to do with stockholders. These are all the margin buyers fighting it out. It is yo-yoing.<br>
<br>
Ian

imcarthur 09-10-2013 12:08 PM

"Buy on the rumor, sell on the news". Any news . . .

Ian

GH85Carrera 09-10-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7649015)
ok, S or C??

I don't want a S-C I will wait for the Carrera version. :p

RWebb 09-10-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by motion (Post 7648976)
Guess investors are not happy, LOL.

Investors are happy. for example I only have a 25% gain so far, and going to hold for a 2x or 3x gain in a few years.

Speculators & Traders are not happy - and if they bothered to calculate their gains/losses over the long term including all the costs and taxes, they would be a lot less happy - ignorance is bliss.


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