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AAPL: How high will it go?
I bought some when it was $580 a month or two ago, artificially low due to anticipated release if the iPhone 5. Anyone see a stock split or $1,000 share price coming? I sure do :)
I still have some that I bought at $50 a share, but sadly, I unloaded most of it due to losses in other stocks, sigh. |
It's a crapshoot. But I would bet high.
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ex-cash, Apple trades for just 10.7x estimated 2013 profits.... if it could just get Starbucks valuation or heaven forbid Amazon!
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Apple? Never make it. Like Michael Dell said in 1997: 'just close the doors and give the shareholders their money back.'
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When they get their television strategy worked out, look out.
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Apple is a great company that has a lot of hype.
That said, its share price is unlikely to double or significantly increase much more. How many people can buy the same one phone and the same one tablet. Doesn't anyone want to be unique? Personally, I like beaten down stocks that have the ability to double, triple or even quadruple. In the tech sector, RIM (ticker: RIMM) the maker of Blackberry phones is down almost 95% from its peak. It has six new phones, a new operating system (BB10) and a new set of enterprise servers all coming out around January 2013. For under $7 per share, it is a steal with a market cap of around $4 billion. RIM has: (1) NO debt; (2) has $2.2 billion in cash reserves! (3) owns $2.5 billion in patents; (4) 78 million BB users; (5) owns its buildings/real estate; and (6) a great enterprise server business. Plus the stock market guru, the Warren Buffet of Canada, just bought a huge chunk of the company (10%, averaging down). I think it is a better buy than Apple even though the media is harsh on anything RIM. It may just be that I am Canadian and everyone here is a Crackberry addict..... |
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Some analysts say look to $1000-1100. I'd say it's still a 'buy.' Of course, if you're into gambling, you can bottom-fish. But money is made on stocks headed up; not hitting bottom (RIM) |
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If we're playing that game, I bought a ton of AAPL in '82 at $10.50 and sold it 6 months later at $61.50. In Spring '03 I had $60K in AAPL but decided iTunes wasn't a smart strategy and pulled out. Occasionally I calculate the cost of that move... just to keep myself humble.
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I sold the last of my APPL tree 'bout a month or so ago....exchanging "fruit" for "dirt" (land purchase). I hope you guys are correct, and make a bundle, but I figured AAPL has had good run, and at some point the "rocketship" has to stall. Did the same with Google, RHAT, and a few others over the years...after a good run, I don't try to squeeze the last $ out a high-flyer. Apple is a great co. but it's diminishing returns when the market capitalization gets too high imo.
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Every stock I buy without the Room Monkey's approval is a disaster. I bought a few shares of aapl. So beware. ;) And I bought McD's the same day back in the spring & look how well it's doing . . . Note: The Room Monkey (yes, still living here) works for a CDN bank in their investor division & since he resides here my account undergoes extra scrutiny from their compliance people. Ian |
Many are projecting the iPhone 5.0 to be the biggest smartphone launch........ever.
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This makes me laugh. They are giving apple ipads to the monkeys/gorillas in the Toronto Ontario zoo. In the meantime I have my economy Dell laptop. Maybe that is what it takes to amuse a Toronto monkey. I am not that amused.
Apple going higher? Remember how popular the Blackberry was in N. America? I think Apple has reached a lofty height. I would not be a buyer at that price. Ask Warren Buffett! But it will likely go higher because I am not buying. |
I don't understand why you are laughing? Are you saying Apple products are for monkeys and Dell products are for intelligent people?
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Jury just ruled in Apple's favor in Apple vs Samsung patent case. Awarded Apple 1.05 Billion in damages. Shares up to $675 in after hours trading. I'm going to load up on some more. I see it going further north with the new iPhone 5 launch on (rumored) Sept 12 and the new iPad mini.
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Everyone my age (24) has grown up on Apple. I can only see the consumption of their products going up. All of my close friends from college have iPhones. Almost all of us have iPads. Blackberry was never engrained that way with the people who spend the most money on tech. |
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Not everyone was raised on Apple computers. It is too simplistic to make that assumption. Not everybody wants to spend that kind of $$$ on a computer. Some are happy with a Toshiba or a Dell and don't need all the thrills of an Apple. However the monkeys at the Toronto zoo are now hooked on the touchscreen and it has become their new crackberry. Time will tell.
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For context: Toronto Zoo orangutans go ape for iPad
"They use them to play memory and painting games, even to Skype with other orangutans. But watching videos is their favourite." Current rumor has Apple doing a 2 stage Fall launch. The iPhone first. Once sales are hitting nicely, launch the new small iPad a month later to vault into the Christmas buying frenzy. That should keep the hype flowing & the cash registers singing well into the New Year. The stock might follow. Might being the key word. Ian |
Forget the iPhone5 launch - If Microsoft actually releases that POS Windows 8 there is no telling what could happen to Apples stock. Yes, Im a long time Windows, ESX and Hyper-V person.
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I'd love to buy in.... But unless one of you guys is going to float me a few bills, I'd only be able to grab a share or two...
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I grabbed some RIMM a month or so ago. My bet is it is going to go up and if it goes down, well, I purchased near the bottom!
I like the underdog aspect as nobody seems to think they can pull it off. |
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I might buy a couple RIM Jan '14 call options if I think its going up but with so much downside, I wouldn't put my money into buying their stock
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7-inch iPad will put Apple in some very unfamiliar territory in the tablet market — it’s an area currently dominated by Android-based devices. However, Apple’s entry into that segment will also present some seemingly insurmountable challenges to those same companies.
When Apple first released the iPad, it was the only player in that market, so it stands to reason that it completely dominated the tablet scene. Some companies tried to compete with Apple, but quickly realized their foothold was just too strong. What the competition did to combat that was move to a smaller form factor, a place where Apple didn’t make a product. That made a lot of sense, and it worked. The other tablet-makers quickly gained their own foothold in the market. With a 7-inch iPad, Apple will, for the first time, take on its competition on their turf. This will be a real test for Apple and the iPad brand, but one I’m convinced they will easily win. This isn’t the first time Apple has taken on its competitors using this strategy. I’ve mentioned before that in the MP3 player market, Apple released an iPod and then came back later to release new iPods of varying sizes. Essentially what they did was keep squeezing its competitors out of the markets it entered. I see the exact same thing happening to the tablet market. Apple released the iPad and dominated that market. Once its dominance was complete and its competitors had moved on, it will release a product in that segment as well. Apple is not entering the 7-inch tablet market to take a few market share points away from the incumbents, it wants to totally control that space with the iPad. Let’s face it, the iPad is a huge brand, so consumers recognize and identify with it. But there’s more to the story than that. Apple also has the infrastructure of iTunes and iCloud on its side. The ability for Apple to offer its customers music, television shows, movies and educational content, synced across all devices and computers is unique and powerful. Here’s how I see the tablet market playing out after a 7-inch iPad release: Apple will continue to dominate the 10-inch market that it does now. Apple will take a massive chunk of the 7-inch market Amazon will continue on as it has been. Not much change The rest of the market will see diminished share of the tablet market The problem for Apple’s competitors is that there is no where else to go. If they go down much more in size, the tablet becomes a smartphone. If they go up beyond the size of the current iPad, it becomes too big to be useful. Apple is in a position to decimate its competitors. All it needs to do is release the 7-inch iPad. |
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RIM may have cash reserves, but thats it... And cash will disappear quickly as they keep losing market share... Unless they RADICALLY change their product offering, and do it very well, they are dead... |
^ this. RIM is dead. Nokia (the world leader in mobile phones) is also circling the drain. They resisted flip phones, then missed the boat on smart phones, stubbornly stuck Symbian OS, then grudgingly moved to WinOS. Their success is totally dependent on how WinOS performs on the mobile market.
Apple has the advantage in owing the hardware corner which makes developing apps much easier. With HTML5, GWT, jQuery, etc... hopefully hardware and OS won't matter anymore. Time will tell. |
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Otherwise totally dead. |
Someone needs to make a RIM Downfall parody.
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How high, well as the result of the verdict last night the aftermarket trade price went up 11.73 pts. I can live with that.
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MiniPad and MaxiPad? |
The 7" iPad will sell well because it will have a lower price point.
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I am an ex IT guy. Never touch Apples. I see it going to effectively 2000 after a split. Their margins are amazing. Their customers are lemmings. And there are plenty of them.
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AAPL now at 676 - all time high.
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