Any interest in a real 2002 996 GT2? A bank in Ohio reposessed this with 19K miles...

[kaisen]

The only story I know:

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

It's twice the car than a 993TT for the same price. I'd be ok with the air cooled snobs looking down their nose at me.

Ba... ba... but... It has yucky headlamps!!!

[alwaysflat6s]

Guys,
Honestly, there is no excuse for such ignorance about GT2s! You think of yourselves as ....enthusiasts? There is so much free info out there to explain them but you are too LAZY to even read up on them before you shoot your mouths off. Shame on you. Read the specs. There are even free copies of the Info Technik online that explain them.

It probably won't be for another 15-20 years, but finally the writers in the auto mags will start writing about these in terms that the Porsche masses will understand. This is the last real driver's car built by Porsche. One reason for the lack of good information from the press is that few of the "testers" [have you any idea what the criteria for an "automotive journalist" is?] have enough skill to use much of the potential. People with plenty of enthusiasm, ability, and ...yes, money... have been willing to pay what it costs to have one of these because the "6-2" offers an exceptional, undiluted, driving experience. The only aid is ABS... you can add to that .. your right foot and well trained butt sensors... that is all that is between you and the nearest ditch when you start extending one of these monsters. Fantastic driving machine [and yea, I know a lot about fantastic driving machines,] Like the best of the older Porsches, half of the reward is getting it right. Unlike most of the best, get it wrong ...and you get it very very wrong. This is not a happy, playful, puppy dog machine. It is a seriously unforgiving performance piece.

JR

[Ronbo]

Originally Posted by kaisen

What story?

In your initial post you stated that the VIN didn't decode as a GT2. I was wondering about that also.

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by kaisen

Since the VIN doesn't decode as a GT2, it's listed as a 911 Turbo

^^^ this

[kaisen]

Originally Posted by Ronbo

In your initial post you stated that the VIN didn't decode as a GT2. I was wondering about that also.

Ah, I see

The VIN of a GT2 is the same (save for one check-digit) as a 996TT
So when a bank looks at a VIN in "the book" they'd see this as just another 996TT
Similarly, most computer programs that decode VINs won't see this as a GT2 either

Here's an example:

WP0AB29932S696145 02 GT2 (this thread's subject)

WP0AB29902S685572 02 996TT (random 996TT from eBay)

W 1st digit is the country (W = West Germany)
P 2nd digit is the manufacturer (P = Porsche)
0 3rd digit is car or truck (0 = Car, 1 = Cayenne)
A 4th digit is body (A = Coupe, B = Targa, C = Cabrio)
B 5th digit is induction (B = Turbo, A = Natural)
2 6th digit is emissions
99 7th/8th digit are model code when combined with twelfth (99+6 = 996)
3/0 9th digit is a mathematics check code (see bold in VINs above)
2 10th digit is the year (2 = 2002)
S 11th digit is the plant (S = Stuttgart)
6 12th digit is model (see 7th and 8th = 996)
96145 13th-17th digits are the serial numbers as it was produced (see bold in VINs above)

There is nothing different between a 996TT VIN and a 996 GT2 VIN

So a lot of people can't tell by the VIN what it is
When automated listings are compiled, it just shows up as a 996TT Coupe

That's what happened here....bank listed it as a mere 996TT Coupe
So if you're searching for a GT2, it doesn't show up

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by alwaysflat6s

Guys,
Honestly, there is no excuse for such ignorance about GT2s! You think of yourselves as ....enthusiasts? There is so much free info out there to explain them but you are too LAZY to even read up on them before you shoot your mouths off. Shame on you. Read the specs. There are even free copies of the Info Technik online that explain them.

It probably won't be for another 15-20 years, but finally the writers in the auto mags will start writing about these in terms that the Porsche masses will understand. This is the last real driver's car built by Porsche. One reason for the lack of good information from the press is that few of the "testers" [have you any idea what the criteria for an "automotive journalist" is?] have enough skill to use much of the potential. People with plenty of enthusiasm, ability, and ...yes, money... have been willing to pay what it costs to have one of these because the "6-2" offers an exceptional, undiluted, driving experience. The only aid is ABS... you can add to that .. your right foot and well trained butt sensors... that is all that is between you and the nearest ditch when you start extending one of these monsters. Fantastic driving machine [and yea, I know a lot about fantastic driving machines,] Like the best of the older Porsches, half of the reward is getting it right. Unlike most of the best, get it wrong ...and you get it very very wrong. This is not a happy, playful, puppy dog machine. It is a seriously unforgiving performance piece.

JR

Bravo! Said well in an informative manner...

[biosurfer1]

Just like the 914 LE's...unless you know the specific number range they fit in and have the COA, they are just another 914 according to the VIN.

Originally Posted by kaisen

Ah, I see

The VIN of a GT2 is the same (save for one check-digit) as a 996TT
So when a bank looks at a VIN in "the book" they'd see this as just another 996TT
Similarly, most computer programs that decode VINs won't see this as a GT2 either

Here's an example:

WP0AB29932S696145 02 GT2 (this thread's subject)

WP0AB29902S685572 02 996TT (random 996TT from eBay)

W 1st digit is the country (W = West Germany)
P 2nd digit is the manufacturer (P = Porsche)
0 3rd digit is car or truck (0 = Car, 1 = Cayenne)
A 4th digit is body (A = Coupe, B = Targa, C = Cabrio)
B 5th digit is induction (B = Turbo, A = Natural)
2 6th digit is emissions
99 7th/8th digit are model code when combined with twelfth (99+6 = 996)
3/0 9th digit is a mathematics check code (see bold in VINs above)
2 10th digit is the year (2 = 2002)
S 11th digit is the plant (S = Stuttgart)
6 12th digit is model (see 7th and 8th = 996)
96145 13th-17th digits are the serial numbers as it was produced (see bold in VINs above)

There is nothing different between a 996TT VIN and a 996 GT2 VIN

So a lot of people can't tell by the VIN what it is
When automated listings are compiled, it just shows up as a 996TT Coupe

That's what happened here....bank listed it as a mere 996TT Coupe
So if you're searching for a GT2, it doesn't show up

[intakexhaust]

Originally Posted by alwaysflat6s

Guys,
Honestly, there is no excuse for such ignorance about GT2s! You think of yourselves as ....enthusiasts? There is so much free info out there to explain them but you are too LAZY to even read up on them before you shoot your mouths off. Shame on you. Read the specs. There are even free copies of the Info Technik online that explain them.

It probably won't be for another 15-20 years, but finally the writers in the auto mags will start writing about these in terms that the Porsche masses will understand. This is the last real driver's car built by Porsche. One reason for the lack of good information from the press is that few of the "testers" [have you any idea what the criteria for an "automotive journalist" is?] have enough skill to use much of the potential. People with plenty of enthusiasm, ability, and ...yes, money... have been willing to pay what it costs to have one of these because the "6-2" offers an exceptional, undiluted, driving experience. The only aid is ABS... you can add to that .. your right foot and well trained butt sensors... that is all that is between you and the nearest ditch when you start extending one of these monsters. Fantastic driving machine [and yea, I know a lot about fantastic driving machines,] Like the best of the older Porsches, half of the reward is getting it right. Unlike most of the best, get it wrong ...and you get it very very wrong. This is not a happy, playful, puppy dog machine. It is a seriously unforgiving performance piece.

JR

Santa is giving up his ride to a good boy or girl.

[slakjaw]

I'd trade my meatplow for it.

[winders]

Originally Posted by alwaysflat6s

Guys,
Honestly, there is no excuse for such ignorance about GT2s! You think of yourselves as ....enthusiasts? There is so much free info out there to explain them but you are too LAZY to even read up on them before you shoot your mouths off. Shame on you. Read the specs. There are even free copies of the Info Technik online that explain them.

It probably won't be for another 15-20 years, but finally the writers in the auto mags will start writing about these in terms that the Porsche masses will understand. This is the last real driver's car built by Porsche. One reason for the lack of good information from the press is that few of the "testers" [have you any idea what the criteria for an "automotive journalist" is?] have enough skill to use much of the potential. People with plenty of enthusiasm, ability, and ...yes, money... have been willing to pay what it costs to have one of these because the "6-2" offers an exceptional, undiluted, driving experience. The only aid is ABS... you can add to that .. your right foot and well trained butt sensors... that is all that is between you and the nearest ditch when you start extending one of these monsters. Fantastic driving machine [and yea, I know a lot about fantastic driving machines,] Like the best of the older Porsches, half of the reward is getting it right. Unlike most of the best, get it wrong ...and you get it very very wrong. This is not a happy, playful, puppy dog machine. It is a seriously unforgiving performance piece.

JR

Yawn.....it's still a 996. Zero interest here.

Scott

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by winders

Yawn.....it's still a 996. Zero interest here.

Scott

Don't buy it then.

[willtel]

Originally Posted by kaisen

I can't believe you'd even debate it

I'm not debating anything. Once again you are so busy looking for an argument you can't fathom to realize anyone's point of view beside your own. No surprise.

Originally Posted by alwaysflat6s

Guys,
Honestly, there is no excuse for such ignorance about GT2s! You think of yourselves as ....enthusiasts? There is so much free info out there to explain them but you are too LAZY to even read up on them before you shoot your mouths off. Shame on you. Read the specs. There are even free copies of the Info Technik online that explain them.

It probably won't be for another 15-20 years, but finally the writers in the auto mags will start writing about these in terms that the Porsche masses will understand. This is the last real driver's car built by Porsche. One reason for the lack of good information from the press is that few of the "testers" [have you any idea what the criteria for an "automotive journalist" is?] have enough skill to use much of the potential. People with plenty of enthusiasm, ability, and ...yes, money... have been willing to pay what it costs to have one of these because the "6-2" offers an exceptional, undiluted, driving experience. The only aid is ABS... you can add to that .. your right foot and well trained butt sensors... that is all that is between you and the nearest ditch when you start extending one of these monsters. Fantastic driving machine [and yea, I know a lot about fantastic driving machines,] Like the best of the older Porsches, half of the reward is getting it right. Unlike most of the best, get it wrong ...and you get it very very wrong. This is not a happy, playful, puppy dog machine. It is a seriously unforgiving performance piece.

JR

I'm sure these are not drivers cars. Just watered down junk conceived by bean counters.

[winders]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Don't buy it then.

I won't.......or any other 996 for that matter unless it was a Cup Car for racing.

Scott

[Gogar]

Originally Posted by winders

The only long hoods that were undesirable where the '74 to '77 models.

Oh good! Now I can stop reading anything you type about Porsches from now on.

[winders]

Originally Posted by Gogar

Oh good! Now I can stop reading anything you type about Porsches from now on.

Did you read where I said I had a brain fart? Like you have never had one before......

I've been involved with Porsche car since '78........

Scott

[pirahna]

What an awesome car, I wish I had the money burning a hole in my pocket.

[Gogar]

Originally Posted by winders

Did you read where I said I had a brain fart? Like you have never had one before......

Don't be silly! I just read as far as I want, and then I skip right to the last page and comment regardless of the thread direction, like everyone else.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by willtel

I'm not debating anything. Once again you are so busy looking for an argument you can't fathom to realize anyone's point of view beside your own. No surprise.



I'm sure these are not drivers cars. Just watered down junk conceived by bean counters.

You're having quite a few brain farts, buddy. Kind of like the baked beans scene in Blazing Saddles.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Car snobs make me laugh.